All else being equal, 750+ gmat score + "CFA 1" vs "CFA 2" alone

Greenie nailed it. While academics like to know how much horsepower you have, high end finance is really turned off by lazy pieces of shit. Including a high GMAT is just proof you are a turd with a sense of entitlement. Some even find it insulting that you turned your nose on the educational opportunity you were given. In fact, you will not change and you will not bust your ass doing eighty hour weeks. Another reason I’m not a BSD on Wall Street. Finance is full of smart people WITH high GPAs. Nobody cares that everybody knew you were the smartest in your little sandbox but just didn’t care.
 
mentioning you’re of above average intelligence with no acheivements is a negative.
high intelligence + little acheivement = high entitlement = bad news for an employer unless a job requirement is writing the GMAT again or answering jeopardy questions.
 
Matt Likes Analysis wrote:
mentioning you’re of above average intelligence with no acheivements is a negative.
high intelligence + little acheivement = high entitlement = bad news for an employer unless a job requirement is writing the GMAT again or answering jeopardy questions.
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yes, but when you have no experience or true credentials, is it not better to atleast seem smart? Smart w/ perhaps a past of laziness that you have learned from and grown to be better than > no experience/no credentials AND no evidence of intelligence. What is the past is the past for OP. He can’t go back and change his grades. All he can do is do his best to move forward
 
Ghibli wrote:
Greenie nailed it. While academics like to know how much horsepower you have, high end finance is really turned off by lazy pieces of shit. Including a high GMAT is just proof you are a turd with a sense of entitlement. Some even find it insulting that you turned your nose on the educational opportunity you were given. In fact, you will not change and you will not bust your ass doing eighty hour weeks. Another reason I’m not a BSD on Wall Street. Finance is full of smart people WITH high GPAs. Nobody cares that everybody knew you were the smartest in your little sandbox but just didn’t care.
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What do you mean by: “ turned your nose on the educational opportunity you were given”?
The position i come from is the fear to not find a finance internship in London, even a very basic one. I really do not feel entitle to anything. I just want to show that all is not bad about my profile.
Can i not explain this in a motivation letter? Show them i understood the weaknesses of my profile, so i prepare and took the gmat to show that i have some potential, because i am determined to work in finance.
You all seem to think that CFA 2 alone is better than CFA 2 with gmat 750, because it will somehow show that i didn’t have to work very hard.
Does everybody agree with that?
If the number one priority for me is to find a internship starting january 2015, how should i spend my time?
Learn everything i can about the finance world and theories?
thanks for all your responses
 
mk17 wrote:
I would spend your time networking and producing samples of analytical work whether it be reports or whatever you want to move into.
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i will spend some time networking but it’s not like i can do that every day.
What do you mean by: “producing samples of analytical work whether it be reports or whatever you want to move into.”?
I should do some financial analysis of my own? How could that help me?
 
knakoo wrote:
Ghibli wrote:
Greenie nailed it. While academics like to know how much horsepower you have, high end finance is really turned off by lazy pieces of shit. Including a high GMAT is just proof you are a turd with a sense of entitlement. Some even find it insulting that you turned your nose on the educational opportunity you were given. In fact, you will not change and you will not bust your ass doing eighty hour weeks. Another reason I’m not a BSD on Wall Street. Finance is full of smart people WITH high GPAs. Nobody cares that everybody knew you were the smartest in your little sandbox but just didn’t care.
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What do you mean by: “ turned your nose on the educational opportunity you were given”?
The position i come from is the fear to not find a finance internship in London, even a very basic one. I really do not feel entitle to anything. I just want to show that all is not bad about my profile.
Can i not explain this in a motivation letter? Show them i understood the weaknesses of my profile, so i prepare and took the gmat to show that i have some potential, because i am determined to work in finance.
You all seem to think that CFA 2 alone is better than CFA 2 with gmat 750, because it will somehow show that i didn’t have to work very hard.
Does everybody agree with that?
If the number one priority for me is to find a internship starting january 2015, how should i spend my time?
Learn everything i can about the finance world and theories?
thanks for all your responses
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You can’t tell the girl about what is not obvious unless she asks. It is a positive, but she will be turned off if you mention your eight and a half incher. Now if she asks, fair game. If the company cares, they will ask or have a space for it on their application. Just my two cents. I think it is a net negative. Believe it or not, low grades, high scores, is not uncommon and does not separate you. I understand the logic that if you are smart, you want people to know it, but the lack of skills and experience are the biggest complaints, not the lack of aptitude.
By coasting through your studies, you showed a lack of respect for all involved. Now if you worked full time and went to school, a pass may be given for your weak grades.
 
Vandelay Industries wrote:
Matt Likes Analysis wrote:
mentioning you’re of above average intelligence with no acheivements is a negative.
high intelligence + little acheivement = high entitlement = bad news for an employer unless a job requirement is writing the GMAT again or answering jeopardy questions.
Click to expand...
yes, but when you have no experience or true credentials, is it not better to atleast seem smart? Smart w/ perhaps a past of laziness that you have learned from and grown to be better than > no experience/no credentials AND no evidence of intelligence. What is the past is the past for OP. He can’t go back and change his grades. All he can do is do his best to move forward
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Is there no truth to this?
 
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You can’t tell the girl about what is not obvious unless she asks. It is a positive, but she will be turned off if you mention your eight and a half incher. Now if she asks, fair game. If the company cares, they will ask or have a space for it on their application. Just my two cents. I think it is a net negative. Believe it or not, low grades, high scores, is not uncommon and does not separate you. I understand the logic that if you are smart, you want people to know it, but the lack of skills and experience are the biggest complaints, not the lack of aptitude.
By coasting through your studies, you showed a lack of respect for all involved. Now if you worked full time and went to school, a pass may be given for your weak grades.
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Are they really going to ask for my grades for an internship??? If i pass the CFA lvl 2 what do they care about my undergrad grades in economics? Will they ask for all my grades since the high school exam??
 
Until you a actually do something in the real world, grades are all you’ve got.
 
If only it could be the same in France, I would have been so much more motivated to study hard.
In France the worst student in HEC Paris (the best business school in europe) will still have a better resume than the best student in a good university. And you can get into HEC Paris with average grades all you life! You just have to rock the exams. Then when you are in the school, this is all you need on your resume, they don’t ask for your grades.
Are they really all going to ask for my grades? Because in this case i may have to change my plans and look for an internship in Paris.
 
So if you’re capable of a top 1% GMAT, surely the HEC Paris exams would have been a breeze. Honestly you come across as quite naive. Perhaps that’s just language but it is what it is. If you think you can make up for past experience and poor grades by writing one exam, you’re wrong.
Welcome to mediocrity. Only those HEC Paris or Harvard boys get to play at the top.
 
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