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Why long position in Bond Futures increases duration?
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With all due respect, you’re completely wrong here.thinkwiseandact wrote: Not necessarily. Long position in bond futures will either decrease or increase overall portfolio duration. It depends on 1) duration of futures (let’s denote A), 2) duration of portfolio before adding futures (let’s denote B). If A > B, then overall portfolio duration will increase, if A<B, then vice versa
In their calculation, they include the price of their futures contract in the denominator. Therefore, it sounds as though you have to pay cash today for the full value of their futures contract.thinkwiseandact wrote: Well, appreciate your comment here.
https://www.theice.com/publicdocs/futures/Managing_Bond_Portfolio.pdf
Here we have Scenario 1, in which case investor buys futures and says decreases duration. Are they wrong or do I miss something?
Now I see. Yeah, I should have already known this… my mistake.S2000magician wrote:
In their calculation, they include the price of their futures contract in the denominator. Therefore, it sounds as though you have to pay cash today for the full value of their futures contract.
Humbly: if that’s the case then it’s not a real futures contract. If it’s not the case, then their calculation is wrong.
In a real futures contract, your upfront cost is zero.
You should know this from your study of Level III derivatives. If you want to increase the duration of a fixed income portfolio you buy (i.e., take the long position in) bond futures contracts, and if you want to decrease the duration of a fixed income portfolio you sell (i.e., take the short position in) bond futures contracts. Whether the duration of those contracts is longer or shorter than the duration of your existing bond portfolio doesn’t change that fact.
By the way: I notice that the copyright on that page is 2014. Do these even still exist?
I think so. Their stock is trading in NYSE. Why won’t they exist?S2000magician wrote:
By the way: I notice that the copyright on that page is 2014. Do these even still exist?
Only because their copyright is 5 years old. If they haven’t updated their website in 5 years, that might be an indication that they’re no longer doing business.thinkwiseandact wrote:
Now I see. Yeah, I should have already known this… my mistake.S2000magician wrote: In their calculation, they include the price of their futures contract in the denominator. Therefore, it sounds as though you have to pay cash today for the full value of their futures contract.
Humbly: if that’s the case then it’s not a real futures contract. If it’s not the case, then their calculation is wrong.
In a real futures contract, your upfront cost is zero.
You should know this from your study of Level III derivatives. If you want to increase the duration of a fixed income portfolio you buy (i.e., take the long position in) bond futures contracts, and if you want to decrease the duration of a fixed income portfolio you sell (i.e., take the short position in) bond futures contracts. Whether the duration of those contracts is longer or shorter than the duration of your existing bond portfolio doesn’t change that fact.
By the way: I notice that the copyright on that page is 2014. Do these even still exist?
I think so. Their stock is trading in NYSE. Why won’t they exist?S2000magician wrote: By the way: I notice that the copyright on that page is 2014. Do these even still exist?