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Influx of young MBA students worries top US business schools (from www.ft.com)

By Rebecca Knight

Published: September 14 2006 03:00 | Last updated: September 14 2006 03:00

Melissa King, a freshly minted college graduate, is 22 years old and has never worked in a full-time job in her life. This autumn, she started her first year at the Massachussetts Institute of Technology's Sloan School of Business.

Ms King, who earned her undergraduate degree in chemical engineering at Rice University, says she did not think twice about applying to business school despite her lack of work experience.

"Once I decided that I wanted my MBA, I figured, why wait?" she says. "A lot of people say, 'You don't have any real-world experience', but I disagree. Your whole life is a real-world experience."

Ms King is part of a growing trend at top business schools around the US, where the incoming crop of MBA candidates is younger and less professionally seasoned than in recent years. "I consider it a huge advantage because I can listen to and learn from all my classmates who have had a lot of work experience," she says.

While Ms King does not consider her lack of work experience a liability, there is a concern among some business school leaders and recruiters that once these new untested MBAs graduate, they may be met with scepticism in the corporate world.

"The model does not help them a whole lot," says John Fernandes, the president of the Association to Advance Collegiate Schools of Business (AACSB). "If they are purely academic, businesses will see them as bright but not ready to manage at that point. There's a building of managerial acumen that comes with experience."

At big investment banks, for instance, new MBA graduates are typically hired at the associate level and expected to lead a team of analysts. "It is not so much that there is a magic number of years in terms of work experience but, for a new hire to be brought in at the associate level, you need that person to be plug-and-play with a certain level of maturity, poise and seasoning," said Danielle Domingue, a recruiter at JP Morgan Chase.

Another concern is that these inexperienced MBAs may have difficulty finding jobs in certain industries, according to Thomas Caleel, director of admissions at Wharton. He has noticed this trend with Wharton's submatriculants - undergraduates at the University of Pennsylvania who immediately go on to enrol at the business school.

"There are some industries - like consulting - that are very client-facing and where age matters," he says. "But there are other industries - hedge funds, investment banking - where companies are looking for young, bright, aggressive talent."

These new MBAs also will not make as much money, at least initially, as their counterparts who have a fuller work history, according to Mr Fernandes. "They're a lot less costly to businesses: their starting salary will be about half of what an MBA with four years of prior work experience will get."

The average starting salary of a new MBA was $92,360 (�72,700, �49,220) last year, according to research from the Graduate Management Admission Council. Two-thirds of job offers to MBAs in 2006 also came with signing bonuses that averaged $17,603.

But according to some business school officials, recruiters might seek out these new MBAs precisely because they have no work experience. They come with no professional baggage and are therefore more malleable and better able to adapt to a new company culture.

Derrick Bolton, assistant dean and director of MBA admissions at Stanford, says he has noticed that the inexperienced MBAs have certain qualities in the classroom that will translate well to the business world. "They are unburdened by assumptions," he says. "They're willing to ask the question that enlightens everyone."

Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2006
 
The people that get accepted into a top 10 MBA program directly out of undergraduate are very rare and, most likely, well qualified. They may not have the work experience, but HSW filter this group very well and I'm sure they identify candidates destined for success.
 
I found this remark 'Your whole life is a real-world experience' quite amusing. Reminded me of MTV's Real World. And remarks by Stanford's director is even more amusing.

I noted that students, without work experience, within our MBA program could not offer any 'real life' examples during class discussions or participated less than others. Examples from from life, but certainly not from the corporate life.
 
A good friend of mine was accepted into HBS without any work exp. He was a U. of Illnois grad and had only internships to his name. He did have a 3.9 and scored 710 on his GMAT. His turned down offer and accepted offer from S&T with GS. It is possible and does happen.

I am applying to Rice MBA with only 1 year of exp.
 
goldenboy09: I am not denying that people going to b-school, without work experience, are not bright. My only contention is that they may not benefit as much from the MBA experience as someone who has worked in the corporate world.
 
I think the only they are is bright. No proven track record.

My only contention is that they may not benefit as much from the MBA experience as someone who has worked in the corporate world.

Do you feel someone from outside would benefit less then someone from inside corporate world?

I simply would like to go up the chain of command quickly.
 
"Do you feel someone from outside would benefit less then someone from inside corporate world?
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If they're hoping to do something entrepreneurial, I think it's fine going to a good business school early because it's an opportunity for them to meet potential future teammates. On the other hand, if they just want to go through the standard recruiting channels into financial services or consulting, then yes, they will definitely benefit less, simply because they aren't likely to compete against people with resumes stacked with prior industry experience
 
I'm with the young turks on this one. I had more work experience than most of my MBA colleagues, and I'd be stumped to name one time that made a whisker of a difference in my education.

I also remember a Harvard dean saying in some public forum that HBS was intentionally recruiting younger students in order to ensure a large pool of qualified females.
 
"Once I decided that I wanted my MBA, I figured, why wait?" she says. "A lot of people say, 'You don't have any real-world experience', but I disagree. Your whole life is a real-world experience."

Funny, this didn't work in my last interview.
 
Some of the worst professors I had in graduate school's MBA program were career professors. The ones who actually worked in the private sector were the ones who had something to teach.
 
What is the motivation, from B-schools, to have students will negligible experience?

We have an analyst who is an MBA graduate (not a top 5 school) and has about a year of consulting experience. She started out at the bottom, although she did get paid more than the analysts who came in straight from undergrad (about 20% more). While it is only anecdotal, she has very little business judgment and is far from having any real leadership, decision making or negotiating responsibility. Also, we're not ready to have her meet anyone external.

I�ve had a quick look at the base salary statistics from MIT�s employment report (it�s for their MBA graduates). The base salary range for service industry jobs (consulting, finance, etc�) was $50k - $150k, the median was approx $97k. The salary data for people with less than 1 year�s experience was insufficient.

I'm pretty sure that most IB analysts (pre-MBA) would not give any associates (post-MBA) with no experience any respect. I can see them undermining these people, but that's just my point of view.
 
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