Failed once but putting passing first try on linkedin - violation?

higgmond wrote:
It doesn’t matter if CFAI will publicly comment or not. Stating that you went 3/3 when you did not violates Standard 1 (C) - Misrepresentation because the person is making a misrepresention related to “other professional activities” and 1 (D) - Misconduct because he is engaging in professional activity that involves dishonesty, fraud, or deceit. Read Examples 2 and 3 for Standard 1 (D), neither has anything to do with actions taken related to the investment industry.
Umm, if I’m looking at what you are looking at, Example 2 is about fraudulently claiming reimbursement from an employee health insurance program offered by the employer. Example 3 is about manipulating purchase agreements for automobiles for personal gain when an analyst of the automobile industry. While the connection in Example 3 might be weak, how are these examples NOT related to the person’s profession (and employment)? As the standard says “Standard I(D) addresses all conduct that reflects poorly on the professional integrity, good reputation, or competence of members and candidates. Any act that involves lying, cheating, stealing, or other dishonest conduct is a violation of this standard if the offense reflects adversely on a member’s or candidate’s professional activities. Although CFA Institute discourages any sort of unethical behavior by members and candidates, the Code and Standards are primarily aimed at conduct and actions related to a member’s or candidate’s professional life.
 
^ How is lying about your CFA exam results not related to a member’s professional life?
In those two examples, the actions taken by the individuals did not affect their analysis or how well they performed their duties. Just because the person in example 3 had additional knowledge of the industry as a result of her job, that doesn’t make her misconduct related to her profession.
 
higgmond wrote:
^ How is lying about your CFA exam results not related to a member’s professional life?
In those two examples, the actions taken by the individuals did not affect their analysis or how well they performed their duties. Just because the person in example 3 had additional knowledge of the industry as a result of her job, that doesn’t make her misconduct related to her profession.
I agree with you that it is a violation. I disagree with you that the examples in the handbook aren’t related to the profession; they are and clearly CFAI agrees or they wouldn’t use them as examples of breaking the standard given the application of the standard that I bolded in my prior post.
 
Palantir wrote:
No they won’t, all they can do is verify you status in the program. Noting whether a candidate failed an exam would create distinction between those who went 3/3 and those who didn’t, something the CFAINSTITUTE will not do.
incorrect. While CFAI will not confirm someone’s candidate status -> this I agree with.
if CFAI caught someone lying on their resume, trust me, CFAI will surely punish the candidate.
 
This is literally the dumbest thing to lie about. He should be kicked out as it’s a complete joke someone would be that dumb
 
itera wrote:
Palantir wrote:
No they won’t, all they can do is verify you status in the program. Noting whether a candidate failed an exam would create distinction between those who went 3/3 and those who didn’t, something the CFAINSTITUTE will not do.
incorrect. While CFAI will not confirm someone’s candidate status -> this I agree with.
if CFAI caught someone lying on their resume, trust me, CFAI will surely punish the candidate.
Let’s take an example. A candidate says, I passed exams in 2013, 2014, and 2015. Employer asks CFA to verify. Do you actually think CFA will tell the employer whether he passed in those years or not? No way, because it creates a distinction between candidates CFAI considers to be equal.
But I guess there is only one way to settle this.
 
Palantir wrote:
itera wrote:
Palantir wrote:
No they won’t, all they can do is verify you status in the program. Noting whether a candidate failed an exam would create distinction between those who went 3/3 and those who didn’t, something the CFAINSTITUTE will not do.
incorrect. While CFAI will not confirm someone’s candidate status -> this I agree with.
if CFAI caught someone lying on their resume, trust me, CFAI will surely punish the candidate.
Let’s take an example. A candidate says, I passed exams in 2013, 2014, and 2015. Employer asks CFA to verify. Do you actually think CFA will tell the employer whether he passed in those years or not? No way, because it creates a distinction between candidates CFAI considers to be equal.
But I guess there is only one way to settle this.
CFAI will not tell the employer whether the member passed the exams consecutively; however, there is no restriction on any person initiatiating a PCP complaint. If the charterholder makes such a claim on his resume, and the employer asks for evidence of it and the member does not comply, while extreme, there’s nothing stopping an employer from filing a PCP complaint and then the CFAI investigating. Upon investigation, are you saying the CFAI would not rule that the conduct did not meet the standards resulting in the charterholder facing some sort of discipline?
 
No I believe the CFAi would not rule against the candidate. The fact that the employer is investigating whether a candidate passed consecutively means that they are trying to draw a distinction between candidates who failed one exam and those who didn’t, which goes against the views of CFAi. I bet this happens all the time, candidate says, “I went 3/3”, and I’m sure some employers investigate.
 
What if you fail level 1 and then go 3/3.. ” I passed all three exams on consecutive attempts”
Sounds pretty good
 
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