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It’s an obligation, not a right. And depending on if it’s pay-fixed or pay-variable, then the terms borrower and seller (or long and short) can be used interchangeably.Energy.71 wrote:
I’ve been thinking of it as if the floating rate > FRA rate, then the borrower has the right to borrow at below market rates of interest. Whereas if the floating rate < FRA rate, then the seller has the right to lend at an above market rate of interest, therefore short receives the cash. Does this make logical sense to others?
What is the correct number of days to use? “….a 5-month floating rate (as of 3 months from inception)” Can you explain this? Is it when the forward rate expires or at the beginning of the forward rate agreement?S2000magician wrote:
In an FRA, long pays fixed and receives floating, short pays floating and receives fixed.
The payoff is calculated as of the end of the loan period, but settlement is at the beginning of the loan period; the payoff is discounted back to the beginning at the floating rate.
Assuming LIBOR for the floating rate (so it’s nominal, not effective), then the settlement to the long on, for example, a 3 × 5 FRA with a notional amount of $1,000,000 a fixed rate of 3.4%, and a 5-month floating rate (as of 3 months from inception) of 4.2% would be:
[(4.2% – 3.4%) × (150/360) × $1,000,000] / [1 + 4.2%(150/360)]
= $3,333.33 / [1 + 4.2%(150/360)]
=$3,276.00
The settlement to the short would be -$3,276.00.
LIBOR uses 30-day months and 360-day years.hei.so wrote:
It’s an obligation, not a right. And depending on if it’s pay-fixed or pay-variable, then the terms borrower and seller (or long and short) can be used interchangeably.Energy.71 wrote:I’ve been thinking of it as if the floating rate > FRA rate, then the borrower has the right to borrow at below market rates of interest. Whereas if the floating rate < FRA rate, then the seller has the right to lend at an above market rate of interest, therefore short receives the cash. Does this make logical sense to others?
What is the correct number of days to use? “….a 5-month floating rate (as of 3 months from inception)” Can you explain this? Is it when the forward rate expires or at the beginning of the forward rate agreement?S2000magician wrote:In an FRA, long pays fixed and receives floating, short pays floating and receives fixed.
The payoff is calculated as of the end of the loan period, but settlement is at the beginning of the loan period; the payoff is discounted back to the beginning at the floating rate.
Assuming LIBOR for the floating rate (so it’s nominal, not effective), then the settlement to the long on, for example, a 3 × 5 FRA with a notional amount of $1,000,000 a fixed rate of 3.4%, and a 5-month floating rate (as of 3 months from inception) of 4.2% would be:
[(4.2% – 3.4%) × (150/360) × $1,000,000] / [1 + 4.2%(150/360)]
= $3,333.33 / [1 + 4.2%(150/360)]
=$3,276.00
The settlement to the short would be -$3,276.00.
What does it mean when the question says the rate is based on a 180-day LIBOR but expiration is in 90 days? How come the LIBOR rate used doesn’t correspond with the number of days until expiration?
Correct: my mistake.Wojtek wrote:S2000magician, what you described is a 3 x 9 FRA. A 3 x 6 would be based on 90-day LIBOR.
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