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thommo77 Wrote:
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> I have found in life, it is important to portray
> confidence (i.e., speaking up when needed, walking
> with your head held high, smiling and laughing),
> but it is equally important to be humble and treat
> all people with respect. For me, finance people
> tend to be high on confidence (and rightly so),
> but generally low on humility. Nuppal, stay
> confident and aggressive, but resist the urge to
> belittle people or pick fights. Not worth it IMO

good advice. being humble and respectful to everyone shouldn't be viewed as weakness, imo. it's good strategy that can be used to your advantage when dealing with people on many different levels. If you're a BSD, there's no need to go out of your way to prove it by belittling other people's stupid ideas, for example. If you prove it between the lines (when it counts) the payoff will take care of itself and the people around you will encourage your success. They'll say "he's a good dude, he deserves it" instead of resenting your success.
 
^
I was pretty douchey in college, never violent, but definitley had more than a couple girls think I was a d-bag. Strangely, all of their friends/sorority sisters kept coming.

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"good personality ... or he was known as Lt. Mandingo during his army days."
 
jbaldyga Wrote:
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> thommo77 Wrote:
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> -----
> > I have found in life, it is important to
> portray
> > confidence (i.e., speaking up when needed,
> walking
> > with your head held high, smiling and
> laughing),
> > but it is equally important to be humble and
> treat
> > all people with respect. For me, finance
> people
> > tend to be high on confidence (and rightly so),
> > but generally low on humility. Nuppal, stay
> > confident and aggressive, but resist the urge
> to
> > belittle people or pick fights. Not worth it
> IMO
>
> good advice. being humble and respectful to
> everyone shouldn't be viewed as weakness, imo.
> it's good strategy that can be used to your
> advantage when dealing with people on many
> different levels. If you're a BSD, there's no
> need to go out of your way to prove it by
> belittling other people's stupid ideas, for
> example. If you prove it between the lines (when
> it counts) the payoff will take care of itself and
> the people around you will encourage your success.
> They'll say "he's a good dude, he deserves it"
> instead of resenting your success.

I would agree as well. It's only valuable to be humble and respectful if you already command respect like a BSD and or if you are 6'5 300 pounds of muscle. If you're a nobody like me you have to earn respect by showing confidence, intelligence, work ethic, and being a team player.
 
^not exactly what i was saying. my point was if you have what it takes to be a BSD in terms of ability there's no need to be a douche. most of the d-bags i know are pretenders. they deflect attention on their shortcomings by pointing them out in others in hopes of getting ahead.
 
http://www.amazon.ca/Snakes-Suits-When-Psychopaths-Work/dp/0060837721

Some of the comments in this thread remind me of the above book. Has anybody else read it here? I found it a good read, but was still hoping for something more meaty. I would have liked more case studies and more specific writing on how to spot psychopaths from outside the firm, so you don't end up investing in or working for a firm run by one.
 
BiPolarBoyBoston Wrote:
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> Do you feel like you're better than the people
> around you? (This is SMIRK)

+1
 
BiPolarBoyBoston Wrote:
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> If you're a nobody like me

Nice man, you got the your/you're right this time, I'm impressed.
 
MoneyMan_CFA Wrote:
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> I find I get this way a bit when I watch too many
> episodes of Entourage and see how Ari treats his
> employees. My goal is to someday walk into the
> office and just start firing off comments like
> that.

True dat, Ari's funny to watch but I would hate to work for someone like that.
 
nuppal Wrote:
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> Since i've started the new job I have no
> complaints, no worries and I really do enjoy
> getting out of bed and going to work. I get in
> early and leave late. When I am at home I do some
> research and prepare my thoughts/ideas for the
> next day. My boss loves me and I've already built
> solid relationships with the district and regional
> managers.
>
> I've noticed one thing though. I have become 20x
> more aggressive. I have no idea why, it doesn't
> come out at work unless someone says something
> absolutely retarded, and even then I just rip a
> hard joke on them. However, at the gym I find
> myself saying things that sometimes aren't even
> warranted. At the bar I find myself not being so
> "go with the flow" for instance someone tried to
> jump me when ordering drinks. I grabbed his
> shoulder and asked who he was because he's
> obviously really fvcking important.
>
> I have no idea why this is happening, one side of
> me doesn't care, I kind of like the feeling of
> having that extra kick to speak out when something
> isn't right or stand up to someone who probably
> will back down. THe other half of me thinks that I
> might get into trouble.
>
> At work I am usually in a pretty ihgh pressure
> environment, having projects/tasks expected of me
> in half the time it should take to get done, yet I
> love it. I love the feeling of not even having
> time to eat lunch or take a leak. I also get a
> high off the feeling of having a tangible impact
> on the final product/pitch.
>
> I think maybe it's the high stress environment
> getting to me unconsciously. I've never repeatedly
> subjected myself to high stress and pressure,
> besides sports. Sports are different though
> because you can get physical. Like I said earlier
> though, I love the stress and I love the pressure,
> I like making my co-workers look like they aren't
> doing as good a job and I like working longer than
> they do.
>
> It's just this god damn aggressive streak that
> i've found myself in.
>
> Anyone have similar thoughts/experiences?


Have you seen the movie boiler room ???
 
^
Yeah, but i'm not a bookie in New York that got recruited into a pyramid scheme.

__________

"good personality ... or he was known as Lt. Mandingo during his army days."
 
nuppal Wrote:
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At the bar I find myself not being so
> "go with the flow" for instance someone tried to
> jump me when ordering drinks. I grabbed his
> shoulder and asked who he was because he's
> obviously really fvcking important.
>


I know of a guy just like you (white collar office badass) who pulled a similar stunt. The guy turned around and punched him in the face. Then 5 of the guys friends rolled on him. The kid either landed on his head or got kicked in the head and now permanent brain damage.

There are a lot of bad people out there. You are not one of them.
 
I take my aggression out by typing the keyboard really loudly. Keyboards don�t hit back.
 
joemontana Wrote:
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> nuppal Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> At the bar I find myself not being so
> > "go with the flow" for instance someone tried
> to
> > jump me when ordering drinks. I grabbed his
> > shoulder and asked who he was because he's
> > obviously really fvcking important.
> >
>
>
> I know of a guy just like you (white collar office
> badass) who pulled a similar stunt. The guy
> turned around and punched him in the face. Then 5
> of the guys friends rolled on him. The kid either
> landed on his head or got kicked in the head and
> now permanent brain damage.
>
> There are a lot of bad people out there. You are
> not one of them.


this is such bad advice where do i start.............nuppal trust me on this no one will dare lay a hand on u ur way too gangsta n if they do ask them "DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM FOOOOOL I AM MUTHAFU@#IN NUPPAL ...........LEGENDARY AF POSTER, RECOGNIIIIIIIIZEEEE BITCH A$$
 
joemontana Wrote:
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> nuppal Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> At the bar I find myself not being so
> > "go with the flow" for instance someone tried
> to
> > jump me when ordering drinks. I grabbed his
> > shoulder and asked who he was because he's
> > obviously really fvcking important.
> >
>
>
> I know of a guy just like you (white collar office
> badass) who pulled a similar stunt. The guy
> turned around and punched him in the face. Then 5
> of the guys friends rolled on him. The kid either
> landed on his head or got kicked in the head and
> now permanent brain damage.
>
> There are a lot of bad people out there. You are
> not one of them.


Office badass? I think you're trying to over patronize me. I just work hard.

I'm not trying to say I go around looking for fights and I am blood thirsty. I am the same guy, just with a little more agressiveness, and eagerness to get something over/done.

I think I am going to start going to a boxing gym with one of my co-workers who is a boxer. That might help.

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"good personality ... or he was known as Lt. Mandingo during his army days."
 
One of the fundamental tenets of society is respecting somebody's place in line. If someone steps to you in a line it's a sign that they don't respect your membership in society. At that point you need to either post up or give up your place in society and join a herd of gorillas in the jungle. I'm with nuppie on this one.
 
nuppal Wrote:
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>
> Office badass? I think you're trying to over
> patronize me. I just work hard.
>

I am not trying to patronize dude. I think of myself as an office badass! I just know that my powerpoint and modeling skills and professional polish will not help me against losers who get their kicks by rolling on guys on Friday nites.
 
SMIRK Wrote:
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> One of the fundamental tenets of society is
> respecting somebody's place in line. If someone
> steps to you in a line it's a sign that they don't
> respect your membership in society. At that point
> you need to either post up or give up your place
> in society and join a herd of gorillas in the
> jungle. I'm with nuppie on this one.


Agreed, line cutting, in my opinion, is akin to keying a car or writing down song requests for Ray Charles, you just don't do it.

joemontana Wrote:
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> nuppal Wrote:
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>
> >
> > Office badass? I think you're trying to over
> > patronize me. I just work hard.
> >
>
> I am not trying to patronize dude. I think of
> myself as an office badass! I just know that my
> powerpoint and modeling skills and professional
> polish will not help me against losers who get
> their kicks by rolling on guys on Friday nites.

I got ya, there are not many guys like that in Miami, at least not at the clubs I go to. Although you never know when you're gonna roll across a bad egg.

__________

"good personality ... or he was known as Lt. Mandingo during his army days."
 
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