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Anyone been successfully placed by one? If you were looking for a job, would you respond to an ad placed by an employment agency? Anything I should know about?

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There is nothing wrong with using headhunters. Many very large companies don't have the staff (or relevent knowledge in HR in some cases) to deal with screeening resumes and candidates so they effectively outsource this via headhunters.

There's also a difference between an employment agency and an executive recruiter. The former is more low level while the latter is more for professional staff.
 
Huh? I don't know that many top recruiters that place ads...most are known within industry contacts. "Employment agency" like Super I points out sounds more like the kind of thing for entry-level back office positions or temp jobs.

Anyway, recruiters can definitely help provided that you are savvy enough to know which positions would be good for you and which would not be. Sometimes they pitch a position to you that wouldn't be the best for you but if you sign, they collect a commission. That's the only thing to be wary of...oh, and not to let them strongarm you into doing anything.
 
I didn't mean newspaper ad; rather, a posting at Careerbuilder.
 
Also, I've heard you have to be a bit careful with the headhunters at negotiation time. I have a friend who is a quantitative analyst guy. Once it came time to settle a deal, the headhunter started trying to talk the guy's salary down, downplaying the guy's experience as not deep enough or not relevant enough.

You'd think that the headhunter would want a higher price because many work on a comission linked to the salary size, but it turns out that the headhunter's interest is first in getting repeat business from the hiring firm, and second, closing the deal as quickly as possible. Although going too low on salary may make the deal drag out longer, most headhunters probably figure that the company holds more negotiating power (I'd say that's usually true) so a salary biased low is probably faster to close than a salary biased high.
 
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Headhunters advertise. It's the only way they can find lots of potential candidates and justify getting paid. There are very few that don't advertise. Some of them want to be discrete and don't use their firm names in their ads, while others want to build name recognition among both candidates and hiring managers at companies to show that they are active in the market.

You used the term employment agency and I responded to that. If a firm has employment agency or personnel in their title, they probably do mostly low end jobs, but many hi end firms do post thru careerbuilder these days.

There are national firms like Michael Page and Robert Half (mostly accounting) and there are many small local shops. Almost everyone I know has gotten a job at some point in time thru a headhunter. You just have to watch out because some are slimier than others. If they'll send you out for an interview without actually meeting with you first, and just do it based on a resume and phone conversation, that's a bad sign. The only exception is that sometimes a headhunter will have a relationship with a company that has offices all over but a centralized HR, and may be asked to find candidates in a geographic area which makes it infeasible to meet. If a headhunter gets back to me who is based in NYC for a job here in NYC and is not interested in meeting, I'm usually very cautious about proceeding.

There are 2 basic types of headhunters (HHs): Contingent and retained.

Contingent based headhunters only get paid if they find a candidate. Typically a company will have perhaps 2-5 HHs that they work with for a given field (ie a bank may work with one group of firms for IT, another for traders, another for bankers, etc.). They give the firms the positions, the firms screen candidates and send in resumes, and perhaps the firm may itself advertise. if they hire a candidate sourced by the HH then the HH gets paid.


Retained is different. In this situation a contract is signed with the HH giving them the exclusive rights to market the position GUARANTEEING a fee that they will get paid, even if the job ends up getting filled internally. These types of HH are much less common. You may see this for more specialized positions. For example I had responded a coupe fo months ago to a position for a VP/relationship manager and went in and met with the HH. It turned out that they were a retained firm, and the 2 principals were former bankers who had a better understanding of the industry and the specific needs of the position than other generic HHs would have. They had good relationships with a number of large institutions and based on theri past performance they were used for select position son this retained basis. (They submitted my resume but I didn't get the interview even tho they liked me and pushed because my background was large corp lending and they wanted middle market with local contacts).

In many cases companies will start out trying to fill a position and after having no success will give it to HHs. This happens becaause the HHs will have built up a database of people whi've responded to ads, that they've met with in the past, etc. and may know of people that they can reach out to who may not have been looking and might be open to considering the position if the HH picks up the phone and calls them.

For example, Fitch training has been looking for trainers (heavy experience) for MONTHS and has been unsuccessful filling these positions (I interviewed for one of them but passed early on). Now my default search is showing the exact same position, but with no company name being listed by a HH. I know for a fact it is the exact same position. Clearly becuase they need to fill these spots to meet their calender of scheduled courses and client requests for inhouse seminaars they went to HH to try and get help filling the spots.

So, this is my long winded way of saying that there is absolutely no reason not to consider postions posted by HHs on Careerbuilder. It's a bit of a caveat emptor, and I would look to see if the HH has a real website, and ask around to see if anyone you know has heard of them but you have very little to lose. If its a firm in the NY market, then feel free to e-mail me at [email protected] and I'll tell you if i know of them. Note that i rarely check that e-mail address because its almost pure spam these days, but if you post on here that you e-mailed me I'll find your e-mail and get back to you via my real e-mail address (it's my full name so I don't want to post it here).

Hope this long winded response is helpful
 
I got placed in a decent, entry-level position with Morgan Stanley through a headhunter.

Submitting my resume directly to a potential employer sure as hell didn't do me any good.

I suggest you open the Yellow Pages and contact every single headhunter's office listed- even multiple offices of the same company!

Here's what you do:
Call each office and give a 10-second soundbite of your qualifications and what you are looking for/your long-term career goals. Then ask for their email address/fax # so you can send them your resume. Immediately after hanging up with the HH, send your resume. They'll call you back the same day, usually, and schedule you to come in and interview. They will take it from there.

Then, repeat until you have comtacted every headhunter's office listed in the Yellow Pages.

If you are looking to move to another city, do a Google search of HH's in the other city and contact them as well.

Good luck!
 
a girl I know just used a headhunter in NYC and got placed at a really good buy-side firm that is paying in the low 50's for an admin assistant job, with excellent benefits. Not too bad!!
 
"a girl I know just used a headhunter in NYC and got placed at a really good buy-side firm that is paying in the low 50's for an admin assistant job, with excellent benefits. Not too bad!!"

Sounds like a respectable wage for an admin, but no big deal
 
just post your resume on monster.com or hotjobs.com. when you post your resume in one of those sites, all the head hunters and direct employers searching for candidates get to see it. if they find you a qualified candidate for one of their positions they will immediately contact you.

I've had a quite a few jobs through out my career and almost all my jobs were placed by the agency. I personally found employment agency to be extremely useful when it came to the job search.

Some of the agencies have jobs that are never advertised any where. They look for a right candidate and once they find you fit for the position, then they will connect you with the employer.

using employment agency for the job search is probably one of the better way to find the jobs, unless of course, if you have a great connection.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at Monday, September 18, 2006 at 10:15PM by Wanna be a CFA.
 
for an admin job just out of school it is pretty good. And the point was centered around the success of headhunters. Maybe not a big deal to you, oh well
 
Another good policy is to have them agree to never send your resume anywhere without consulting you.
 
Another good policy is to have them agree to never send your resume anywhere without consulting you.
 
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