Level II Re-taker - Seeking Advice

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I am an MBA with specialization in Finance. I took CFA Level I in December 2012 and passed without putting in too much effort. I relied entirely on Schweser and found the material somewhat easy. I started studying in November 2012 and took 2 weeks off from work (I work full-time and was/is not possible for me to study on workdays). With this effort I passed with a breeze (9 subjects > 70 , ethics 50-70).
I followed the same strategy in Level II in June 2013, but this time around most of the material was new/unknown for me and hence 1 month (with 2 full dedicated weeks) was not sufficient and I failed Band 8. FRA and Derivative took me down., but to be honest I did not put in that much effort in FRA as I should have, and did not even completely skim through Derivatives. So I know that I have only myself to blame for failing, but with a full-time job with a hectic schedule I could not have done anything more (apart from starting early rather than just 1 month before the exam).
I have registered for Level II June 2014 again. I have last year’s Curriculum books (untouched :p), this year’s Curriculum books (after all I have read about the Blue Boxes, I guess I have no option but to solve all the Curriculum questions this time around), and last year’s Schweser. Now I’m planning to get back into the game and start studying again (with sufficient time in hand). The current strategy I’m planning to adopt is read Schweser, solve questions from Schweser and Curriculum EOCs (along with Blue Boxes of course). The subjects which I feel were not convered well enough in Schweser (after solving questions), I plan to read curriculum text for that.
Now the concern that I have is, should I use last year’s Schweser (which has all the highlights done, important points marked, etc. by me last year… making is easier/faster to skim through the text) or order this year’s books again (I know few new topics have been introduced… so for those new topics I can get a print/photocopy of the new material if use the old material).
Should I stick to using old material for faster reading or order new books for a fresh start? I plan to do all the new questions anyway. Re-reading the material from old books would save time, but reading from fresh books would force me to re-work on my notes (which will be time consuming of course, but beneficial as well).
This is the first time I am re-taking an exam in my life and don’t know which approach is better. Re-visiting old material or starting afresh with new material.
Any sincere advice on this will be highly appreciated.
Thanks for your inputs in advance
 
So you thought that you could put in the same amout of effort for Level 2 as you did for Level 1 and still pass? Sounds oddly familiar….
It sounds like you’re on the right track–you just need to put in more time. Assuming that cost isn’t a hindrance, I’d order new books. You’ll be forced to rewrite your notes, and you might find some stuff that has changed since last year.
 
1 month each for level 1 and 2 and those results… impressive. you are doing good. you can use either notes. I would suggest new 2014 schweser. keep your old notes though. you may have scribbled something in the old notes which may help you in case you get stuck.
FRA is a bitch.rules which make no sense. you have to cram.Derivatives involve many a formulae. Start early. You have, given your previous score, a very good chances of passing level 2 in june 2014.
 
There has been some change in the course sructure,so i suggest you to order new set of books.And dont rely completely on schweser.Important topics such as FRA and equity should be covered with main curiculum book.Try to solve as many questions as possible .I wish u all the very best for your exam in june 2014.
 
Definitely go with new books, as people have already mentioned the curriculum structure is somewhat changed (less important), and this way you’ll have to write new notes (more important). Of course, practice problems are going to be a great thing.
Regarding your working hours and studying, I assume you cannot take a month off your job to study in peace :) That said, try to organize your time as good as you can and stick to the schedule. I’m using TimePrep for that, got me pass L1 without a problem (no matter how easy it may seem, in the end only 40% people pass), and I got it also for L2.
 
Greenman72 wrote:
So you thought that you could put in the same amout of effort for Level 2 as you did for Level 1 and still pass? Sounds oddly familiar….
It sounds like you’re on the right track–you just need to put in more time. Assuming that cost isn’t a hindrance, I’d order new books. You’ll be forced to rewrite your notes, and you might find some stuff that has changed since last year.
Thanks for the tip :)
“You’ll be forced to rewrite your notes”… this statement has tilted me completely towards buying new books :)
 
confused2010 wrote:
1 month each for level 1 and 2 and those results… impressive. you are doing good. you can use either notes. I would suggest new 2014 schweser. keep your old notes though. you may have scribbled something in the old notes which may help you in case you get stuck.
FRA is a bitch.rules which make no sense. you have to cram.Derivatives involve many a formulae. Start early. You have, given your previous score, a very good chances of passing level 2 in june 2014.
Thanks… Yeah was going through my old books today (haven’t ordered new ones yet… will probably order them this week) and was surprised how many “tips” I had given myself… but unfortunately didn’t have the time to revise anything… so these might be useful this time around
Yeah FRA needs a lot of time to absorb everything I suppose… just a lot of “rules”… you cannot rely on common sense for a decision… u need to know how its done
Derivatives has always been my achillies heel… be it during MBA or now… the complex pricing models i find tad too cumbresome… I love CF and Portfolio though
 
edupristine wrote:
There has been some change in the course sructure,so i suggest you to order new set of books.And dont rely completely on schweser.Important topics such as FRA and equity should be covered with main curiculum book.Try to solve as many questions as possible .I wish u all the very best for your exam in june 2014.
That is the plan… FRA and Equity from curriculum since i have the time now and these 2 alone comprise almost half the exam… + questions for other subjects from curriculum (BBs + EOCs)
 
A.Stewart wrote:
Definitely go with new books, as people have already mentioned the curriculum structure is somewhat changed (less important), and this way you’ll have to write new notes (more important). Of course, practice problems are going to be a great thing.
Regarding your working hours and studying, I assume you cannot take a month off your job to study in peace :) That said, try to organize your time as good as you can and stick to the schedule. I’m using TimePrep for that, got me pass L1 without a problem (no matter how easy it may seem, in the end only 40% people pass), and I got it also for L2.
Yeah… I have decided to go with fresh books„, and prepare new notes (along with glancing old ones)
This time around i’m sure my boss won’t be giving 2 weeks off :p … so I plan to finish off everything by march/april… may for revision… so that I don’t have to hurry through anything…
Need to nail the exam this time at all costs :)
 
Greenman72 wrote:
So you thought that you could put in the same amout of effort for Level 2 as you did for Level 1 and still pass? Sounds oddly familiar….
tons of people make this same mistake
 
dhruvkapoor1987 wrote:
Yeah FRA needs a lot of time to absorb everything I suppose… just a lot of “rules”… you cannot rely on common sense for a decision… u need to know how its done
FRA is a total beast in itself.
 
dhruvkapoor1987 wrote:
I am an MBA with specialization in Finance. I took CFA Level I in December 2012 and passed without putting in too much effort. I relied entirely on Schweser and found the material somewhat easy. I started studying in November 2012 and took 2 weeks off from work (I work full-time and was/is not possible for me to study on workdays). With this effort I passed with a breeze (9 subjects > 70 , ethics 50-70).
I followed the same strategy in Level II in June 2013, but this time around most of the material was new/unknown for me and hence 1 month (with 2 full dedicated weeks) was not sufficient and I failed Band 8. FRA and Derivative took me down., but to be honest I did not put in that much effort in FRA as I should have, and did not even completely skim through Derivatives. So I know that I have only myself to blame for failing, but with a full-time job with a hectic schedule I could not have done anything more (apart from starting early rather than just 1 month before the exam).
I have registered for Level II June 2014 again. I have last year’s Curriculum books (untouched :p), this year’s Curriculum books (after all I have read about the Blue Boxes, I guess I have no option but to solve all the Curriculum questions this time around), and last year’s Schweser. Now I’m planning to get back into the game and start studying again (with sufficient time in hand). The current strategy I’m planning to adopt is read Schweser, solve questions from Schweser and Curriculum EOCs (along with Blue Boxes of course). The subjects which I feel were not convered well enough in Schweser (after solving questions), I plan to read curriculum text for that.
Now the concern that I have is, should I use last year’s Schweser (which has all the highlights done, important points marked, etc. by me last year… making is easier/faster to skim through the text) or order this year’s books again (I know few new topics have been introduced… so for those new topics I can get a print/photocopy of the new material if use the old material).
Should I stick to using old material for faster reading or order new books for a fresh start? I plan to do all the new questions anyway. Re-reading the material from old books would save time, but reading from fresh books would force me to re-work on my notes (which will be time consuming of course, but beneficial as well).
This is the first time I am re-taking an exam in my life and don’t know which approach is better. Re-visiting old material or starting afresh with new material.
Any sincere advice on this will be highly appreciated.
Thanks for your inputs in advance
Using 2013 Schwser is more than reasonable, and you will be using 2014 CFAI curriculum for questions and stuff, so you should be alright!
BEST OF LUCK
NANA
 
NANA Hachiko wrote:
dhruvkapoor1987 wrote:
I am an MBA with specialization in Finance. I took CFA Level I in December 2012 and passed without putting in too much effort. I relied entirely on Schweser and found the material somewhat easy. I started studying in November 2012 and took 2 weeks off from work (I work full-time and was/is not possible for me to study on workdays). With this effort I passed with a breeze (9 subjects > 70 , ethics 50-70).
I followed the same strategy in Level II in June 2013, but this time around most of the material was new/unknown for me and hence 1 month (with 2 full dedicated weeks) was not sufficient and I failed Band 8. FRA and Derivative took me down., but to be honest I did not put in that much effort in FRA as I should have, and did not even completely skim through Derivatives. So I know that I have only myself to blame for failing, but with a full-time job with a hectic schedule I could not have done anything more (apart from starting early rather than just 1 month before the exam).
I have registered for Level II June 2014 again. I have last year’s Curriculum books (untouched :p), this year’s Curriculum books (after all I have read about the Blue Boxes, I guess I have no option but to solve all the Curriculum questions this time around), and last year’s Schweser. Now I’m planning to get back into the game and start studying again (with sufficient time in hand). The current strategy I’m planning to adopt is read Schweser, solve questions from Schweser and Curriculum EOCs (along with Blue Boxes of course). The subjects which I feel were not convered well enough in Schweser (after solving questions), I plan to read curriculum text for that.
Now the concern that I have is, should I use last year’s Schweser (which has all the highlights done, important points marked, etc. by me last year… making is easier/faster to skim through the text) or order this year’s books again (I know few new topics have been introduced… so for those new topics I can get a print/photocopy of the new material if use the old material).
Should I stick to using old material for faster reading or order new books for a fresh start? I plan to do all the new questions anyway. Re-reading the material from old books would save time, but reading from fresh books would force me to re-work on my notes (which will be time consuming of course, but beneficial as well).
This is the first time I am re-taking an exam in my life and don’t know which approach is better. Re-visiting old material or starting afresh with new material.
Any sincere advice on this will be highly appreciated.
Thanks for your inputs in advance
Using 2013 Schwser is more than reasonable, and you will be using 2014 CFAI curriculum for questions and stuff, so you should be alright!
BEST OF LUCK
NANA
For the time being I am following this approach only… I have decided to give myself till mid Dec with this approach… If at any point I feel old books are not being an advantage rather a disadvantage… I’ll buy new ones…
The challenge I’m facing is since old books are hoghlighted with points scribbled all across… I’m spending more time revisiting stuff marked important/difficult and skimming through the rest hurriedly… and I think it might not be the best appoach…
If earlier it took me 2 minutes to read a page… now i’m spending just 1… and it might back fire
 
dhruvkapoor1987 wrote:
For the time being I am following this approach only… I have decided to give myself till mid Dec with this approach… If at any point I feel old books are not being an advantage rather a disadvantage… I’ll buy new ones…
The challenge I’m facing is since old books are hoghlighted with points scribbled all across… I’m spending more time revisiting stuff marked important/difficult and skimming through the rest hurriedly… and I think it might not be the best appoach…
If earlier it took me 2 minutes to read a page… now i’m spending just 1… and it might back fire
That’s also the reason why i stopped highlighting and taking notes, you end up just readign waht is highlighted or your flashcards which in most cases leave out 70% of the material.
I think as long as you understand the material (by answering all the LOC questions) you’ll be okay. i think since you are retaking perhaps you can spend more time on questions then reading?
you will find out how well you understadn teh material when you do the questions.
 
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