PCP Investigation and Petition

danv0330 wrote: ^^ I don’t think they claim to have “devices” that detect electronic devices.. I think they mean that the proctors are “monitoring” for them
In my test center, they absolutely claim that they have them. Some test takers were actually discussing whether they really do have them or not over the lunch break.
 
EllensPage wrote:
kurtosis2014 wrote:
As for the length of the ban, I disagree. If truly found in violation, the ban should be as long as CFAI deems it necessary because I think in light of the financial crisis, pyramid schemes, Enrons and Bernie M’s of the world, financial professionals / accountants get a bad reputation in general from a few bad apples. I like the fact that CFAI takes ethics seriously and makes consequences severe.
You do realize you could inisider trade for millions, or run someone over in you car and still get a less harsh sentence don’t you?
How is going to jail for insider trading or running someone over (say for drinking and driving) a less harsh sentence than getting banned for a few years from writing the exam? Yes, some people get special treatment like Mrs. Clinton, but I would say that not necessarily the norm. I don’t know about you, but I would consider being in jail for a year a harsher consequence over not being able to write the exams for few years.
Also, just because other institutions enforce lesser penalties… it doesn’t mean CFAI should lower theirs to the same level. As my mom always said “if so-and-so jumped off the bridge, would you also jump off the bridge?”
 
EllensPage wrote:
I know that someone else had brought this up before, but in order to take proctors out of this equation and provide for more fairness, why doesn’t the CFA moved to computerized/ video taped rooms like the GMAT/ CPA/ MCAT/ the Bar (For Law)/ Med Boards/ Actuary Exams?
I can name a few of those exams that are computerized with video-recorded rooms/cubicles. There are still proctors that actively watch these video streams and investigate anything unusual in the testing room (in addition to facilitating the testing process). Proctors aren’t removed from the equation.
 
kurtosis2014 wrote:
danv0330 wrote: ^^ I don’t think they claim to have “devices” that detect electronic devices.. I think they mean that the proctors are “monitoring” for them
In my test center, they absolutely claim that they have them. Some test takers were actually discussing whether they really do have them or not over the lunch break.
I think it’s highly unlikely that they do not have technology within the test room that can detect cell phones. Such technology most likey does exist but it would almost certainly be visible or intrusive (such as having to walk through a scanner of some sort similar to airport security). I’d say it’s almost certain they’re bluffing on that one.
 
I agree with what S2000Magician is insinuating, that these crimes have hurt people in a way that we cannot fathom and to compare them and the penalties to a PCP violation is moronic. I would even argue that this is a violation of Standard VII by a candidate compromising the reputation of the CFA Institute by comparing the Stanford case to a PCP violation. Probably a stretch but the argument could be made.
 
Topperharley wrote:
kurtosis2014 wrote:
danv0330 wrote: ^^ I don’t think they claim to have “devices” that detect electronic devices.. I think they mean that the proctors are “monitoring” for them
In my test center, they absolutely claim that they have them. Some test takers were actually discussing whether they really do have them or not over the lunch break.
I think it’s highly unlikely that they do not have technology within the test room that can detect cell phones. Such technology most likey does exist but it would almost certainly be visible or intrusive (such as having to walk through a scanner of some sort similar to airport security). I’d say it’s almost certain they’re bluffing on that one.
There is no way the CFAI has the resources to set up spectrum analyzers to search for cell phone signals when they can’t even set up a simple video camera to monitor the room.
 
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