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Can anyone tell me more about PIPE investment banking? Good industry, interesting work? etc.....

Anyone have any insight and/or experience?? THanks for the help
 
i worked on a bunch of PIPEs on the buy-side, not as a banker. PIPEs are the backwater of equity finance...one step above blank check companies on the level of shadiness. it's usually companies of exetremely low quality that use PIPEs as a means for capital. you'll come across some interesting stuff though, they're not all bad. a lot of biotech, mining and energy companies mostly. try to get your hands on some issues of The PIPEs Report (excellent PIPEs newsletter) or the PIPEs bible by E Kurt Kim if you want to know more.
 
a good job to be on the banking side?
 
it's all relative. i've never worked on that sid so i couldnt tell you, but i'd imagine it's not the most highly regarded banking job.
 
I'm with wegowayback on this. Why would you want to work in a fairly sleazy backwater of finance? I'm sure that there are some fine companies who have used PIPE's for all kinds of good reasons, but generally comapnies that issue them are slimy and the reasons that people buy them are slimy. Hang around with slimy people and you need to shower too often. Eventually, the showering becomes too time-consuming and you go to bed slimy....

It is absolutely a bad industry, but it might be interesting work if you like this kind of thing.
 
Pretty negative view of PIPE's here. PIPEs are not associated with sleaziness - small public companies are associated with sleaziness. Small companies just so happen to be the ones that most often need PIPEs. I do PIPEs on the banking side, and I find it extremely interesting. Ive been at big and small co's and I am just a better fit at small cos, cause I hate being a cog. Smaller banks will give you much more exposure than just being an excel monkey, but mobility afterwards may be more difficult because you lack the brand. In fact, after business school, I might move to a bulge firm just to get the brand before I go off and do my own thing.

PIPEs represent more of an entrepreneurial segment, if thats your thing. Whenever there is entrepreneurialism, there is ALWAYS sleaze present. Sales guys can break in with little barrier to entry.

Summation - bulge firm, safer. small firm, more upside. Just my thoughts.
 
Look into "Toxic PIPES." There is a distinct reason why a company utilizing this form of financing is referred to as "taking a PIPE" - because that is exactly what is occurring. BOHICA
 
You are confusing a PIPE with a "Toxic PIPE" Gecco. They are two completely different things. One does not imply the other. Toxic, for example, usually implies a floating convert, whereby the hedge fund can effectively arb the discount to the floating price and thereby exert downward pressure on the stock.
 
death spirals havent been around in ~5 years. there's still all sorts of problems with PIPEs though. there's been a number of people in the news the last year or two who've gotten in some major trouble for shorting stocks of deals, then covering with the PIPE allocation. i recall FBR being involved in a lot of it, which wouldnt surprise me. lots of insider trading and naked shorting goes on. even if there's not something illegal or unethical happening, there's probably a good chance that the shares that the bankers are selling are garbage.

statusseeker, how is working on PIPEs more entrepeneurial? i couldnt extract much from your post because you mostly just talked about firm size instead of the actual job
 
Death spirals are still around, there is just more SEC regulation now. Under the terms of a good PIPE (which implies a good underlying company and a well sold story), there might be a lock-up on selling and there is always a no-short clause. Sure, a fund could still short but that would be illegal. The majority of toxicity in a PIPE now results from a convertible debt spiral in which a hedge fund can convert at a discount to market (floating) and sell those shares at market, diluting the stock with no real value-added.

When I say dealing with PIPEs is more entreprenuerial, I say so for two reasons: (1) If you are doing PIPE transactions, you are at a boutique bank and boutiques are inherently more entrepreneurial in nature (theres a closer connection to the business aspect and less bureacracy), and (2) it is much easier to sell large transactions that small ones, so dealing with a PIPE-calibur company usually means you are more connected to the company than in say, a transaction with GE where the story is already there and really the only issue is "whats the price." If I need something, I usually just go straight to the CEO or CFO. Its really just a different ballgame.

I am not advocating PIPE transactions or dispelling them. I'm just noting that people often misconceive really what a PIPE is. GE will not seek a PIPE, but there are plenty of large companies that relied on PIPE financing at their early stages.
 
Has anybody ever been punished for shorting into the PIPE? I think this happens all the time and should be expected.

I'm sure that many companies have used PIPEs for all kinds of valid reasons. However, as far as I can see, a PIPE is used to get a chunk of money quickly by giving up cheap equity. Almost any long-term equity investor should cringe at this idea.

Plenty of mobsters have defined themselves as "entrepeneurial".
 
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