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Hello Analyst Forum. I have a lot to ask so bear with me. In essence I’m trying to figure my career out and get a little more information about the CFA Program/how it could enhance my career options.
I’ll start off by describing where I’m at in life. I’m 23, Just graduated with a finance degree and a minor in economics from a school that was not engaging, or challenging. In any case I am not stupid, I like a challenge, and I like to work hard on things especially if they are engaging. Suffice to say, I had a pretty poor GPA, (3.1 in my major *looks at floor*) that I have nobody to blame but myself for. I’m not in denial about that facts, nor am I blaming others for my shortcomings.
In my final quarter of college I took two great finance classes (portfolio management, and a cases in financial management class) from two great professors, and it changed me. It was engaging, very challenging, unlike any previous classes I’d taken and it made me realize I really love finance, specifically, investment related areas (and it made me wish I would have gone to a more challenging school ugh!!). In any case, I got A’s in both classes (big whoop, I know, but I am usually a B student skating through to an extent simply because I could with natural ability), it made me feel at least some sense of accomplishment, and like I learned something useful. Nearly all students only take 1 of these classes, for some reason only one is required for the finance major (imo the degree is incomplete without both), and everyone I talked too (staff, past students) said I should drop one class because it was too hard. I say this not to put myself on a pedestal for achieving grades I should have, and was capable of achieving all along, but to show the expectations, or lack thereof, this university had for students. So after finishing these classes one of my teachers (who passed all the CFA exams) said I should look into the CFA program. I look into it and pretty much think to myself “wow this is the best thing ever,” not to mention the potential pay is stellar, and the jobs I would be eligible for seem extremely interesting and challenging, networking opportunities are there, and the work would not monotonous like some corporate finance jobs.
So, I moved to Seattle (grew up in WA) after graduating in September and have been looking for work for the past month or two (should have looked for jobs while in school but I thought I’d do the MBA program at said school until I realized it was absolute garbage). It’s worth noting that I have no experience (not even an internship unfortunately) other than a 3-year stint at a grocery store in high school, which I realize is worth precisely nothing.
So now that you fine folks know about the hole I’m in, how do I get out? Haha just kidding, but not really….. As of now I’m thinking I want to sign up for the CFA level I exam in June. I mean I have a passion for investment related matters, I read the WSJ religiously, and listen to Bloomberg every day to keep current. I also feel like I’m very competent in math, economics, and especially statistics, as well as having a good grasp on investment theory due to reading the FAJ, and other institutional Investor publications when I can (a rare treat due to price, and not being able to use the school subscriptions). I would say I’m a bit weak in corporate finance topics as most of my classes were less than informative, and not very technical/real world unfortunately. Will starting the CFA exam series benefit my career long term? I know I won’t land a dream equity researcher job anytime soon. I’m absolutely up to the challenge, and have no problem dedicating the next few years of my life solely to my career and the CFA exams to work my way up to where I want to be. I am willing to work long hard hours for mediocre pay if it’s work I enjoy doing/challenging/fulfilling, and of course will pay off one day not too long down the road. Should I be proceeding with the CFA? I mean one of my main goals in life is to have a great amount of financial freedom/prestige/respect, if other careers have a greater path to lead there, they may be considered.
I looked up and saw how much I just wrote, sorry for the length. So to break it down, do I have a hope for success in this industry given my background/experience/ambitions/anything else?
-How long should I expect to study for the level I exam? How useful are guides and classes (Seattle universities have a few, but they aren’t cheap)
-Any other great news sources you guys like to stay current? I’d like something more technical than WSJ and Bloomberg, reading actual research would be prime if possible
-Any other advice? Or questions I should be asking myself?
-Any idea on places online to brush up on my finance knowledge, and to stay sharp even if I’m not doing meaningful finance work at my job. I’m currently unemployed (although probably not for long) and I’d like to make the most of my time, not waste it, like I did with my university education.
-MBA is kind of a side thought for me, might pursue, but I feel like the CFA stuff is far more interesting to me personally, and less expensive, although MBA will open a greater number of doors probably, it won’t necessarily open the doors I want open, but it may be nice to have a better school/graduate level academics/internships on a resume…Will an MBA (from say UW, or a school in Seattle) help prove I’m a good candidate for a CFA job? Should I perhaps get an MBA to get my foot in the door then go down the CFA route?
-What types of jobs should I be looking for that will transition into CFA jobs? Banks, corporate finance (Amazon, Boeing etc.)? Something else? I’m applying to anything that seems finance related and doesn’t require experience, I’ve also emailed local smaller botique firms that don’t list jobs (although with my background they probably think I’m an asshole for bothering them right?)
I’ve been interviewing for a financial advisor (they want me to pursue a CFP obviously) job at a firm in Bellevue, I think I can get the job but I don’t really want it. The money is definitely better than any other job I could likely get but I want to do analyst work not sales. However if I could leverage some CFP knowledge and experience to help obtain my charter, and an analyst job, later down the road then I may consider this. I feel like I’d be a great advisor but frankly, I enjoy dealing with numbers/data more than people; not that I’m not a people person, I just get wrapped up in data sometimes. I know of very few people get a CFP, then a CFA, and assume virtually none get the CFA then CFP. I’d also be like 30 before I got my CFA…kind of a while really and an odd career change really, right?
Again, sorry for the length, but I’d be so grateful for any advice anyone can provide. I’m trying to get less confused about my options and where they will potentially lead, and how to prove my worth/get out of this hole I’m in. I’ve been doing informational interviews with various people (controllers, CFP’s, and a few others) but have not been able to speak with a CFA or a CFA candidate and know of not a single person who I graduated with who is pursuing a CFA, and I doubt most who come out of the school I came out of even know what it is. My head is now spinning, as I’m sure yours is from reading this damn tome of a post. Happy Friday, cheers guys. Thanks in advance for any advice you can provide me, I cannot put in words how much it will be appreciated.
 
Can’t wait for the next Keeping Up with the Kardashian series to air….
 
My advice would be to not fixate on “CFA jobs” as a short or long term goal. The job market is on a downswing (hopefully mostly temporary) and your background will keep you out of the most competitive entry level jobs. There are many other careers where you can be productive, happy, and not feel like you are unable to reach the “next step” at any point.
 
You are 23. You just graduated. I would love to start over at that age.
I would take the financial advisor role just to get some experience on your resume. Learn about the inside out of all the products you are selling. And then focus on ‘portfolio allocation’ methodologies. You could find some good bulletpoints to put on your resume in the meantime. Also, you’ll get at least your Series 7, and 66.
You’re not going to get the perfect job right out of undergrad, or ‘ever’. So do this, learn about it, also learn some sales skills (even if you don’t like sales).
My first job out of undergrad was insurance sales. I didn’t like it, but I did learn some good skills that I would not have otherwise.
 
Take any job in the industry and be the best at it. Network like crazy and stuff happens. I met my current boss playing tennis when I was in a different industry (public accounting). Your career will advance as you do a great job with your current position, add credentials and meet new people. Then stay in touch with them.
23 years old is no time to have a career crisis. I appreciate that you are asking questions now, but don’t get down on yourself if things don’t fall into place right away. Keep working hard.
 
iteracom wrote:
wow.. real answers? did you guys really read all that?
Not really. But I “knew” this person after 20 seconds of highlights: Young kid, thinks life is over because at age of 23 he doesn’t have dream job and if he would just add some letters to his name everything would fall into place. Seems like a nice kid and asked some decent questions, so it deserved a decent response.
 
goes to eleven wrote:
iteracom wrote:
wow.. real answers? did you guys really read all that?
Not really. But I “knew” this person after 20 seconds of highlights: Young kid, thinks life is over because at age of 23 he doesn’t have dream job and if he would just add some letters to his name everything would fall into place. Seems like a nice kid and asked some decent questions, so it deserved a decent response.
goes to eleven just went to twelve
 
I’ve made a fool of myself around here (probably deservingly so *chuckles*). I Suppose I’ll just concentrate at being the best at whatever it is I do, and try to land/move toward a more finance related role when/if I can. I guess I dont really even know what my dream job is since I haven’t had any real jobs in the first place. I feel very foolish for kinda getting tunnelvision and thinking the CFA was the only path to “make it” (whatever that even is), and of course get a nice compensation package. Hell, maybe sometime down the road I will end up taking my CFA, who knows. Thanks for the candid answers guys, it helped, really!
Any news sources you guys especially like for investing/learning about it, I still would like to begin investing as much of my money as is feasible. and I just think it’s an interesting subject that I’m passionate about, and if an opportunity arises at least I’ll be current and whatnot.
 
Eh?
Hmm, considering taking an operations analyst position at Boeing on contract that they have offered me. Any people have experience with temporary work. I think it may benefit me as I would gain experience in many areas that could potentially make me more hireable in a general sense.
 
I didn’t read the original post, but advice for people in this industry is standard. Meet as many people as possible and build networks. Keep in touch regularly with your network.
 
No doubt - this is the longest post I have seen on AF, so far. Record granted. But this is a serious question that deserves a serious answer. I will give you a general advise, and 100% independent of my personal situation: if you are passionate about it, go for it. Take the job that best accomodates your passion. Life is short, my friend.
To all those that have been making fun of this young fella: shame on you! Put yourselves in his shoes and don’t project your own misery…;)
 
Yes you should do the CFA. But your first focus needs to be getting some sort of job. I expect the financial advisor job will suck and be mostly sales but like others said you might want to think about it. The only other thing I could think of is maybe back office/operations somewhere related to finance. Work that job for a couple years, while studying up for CFA, CFP, Series tests, etc. It won’t hurt in the long run to have more certifications, but in the short run you need some job experience. After a couple years do an MBA, do internships and finance club in school, meet some people and get a real job. Go to the best program you can get into. Don’t even think about messing with online or small no-name school.
For CFA, spend 6 months on it, buy Schweser with qbank and videos and do tons of repetition. In person classes and study groups are a waste of time. The keys to passing are dedication and repetition.
I’d think long and hard about this sentence:
“I mean one of my main goals in life is to have a great amount of financial freedom/prestige/respect, if other careers have a greater path to lead there, they may be considered.”
Be sure you do something you like or you’ll never be happy. If that ends being somethign that pays well you are very lucky. Money does buy happiness up until a salary of about $75k and then after that not as much. And the happiness is generally experiences (vacations, events, etc) not things like cars, clothes, big house. As far as “prestige/respect” go, you do realize it is en vogue to bash Wall Street, likely even more so in Seattle, right? Prestige/respect are a separate issue from money and you really should think about them in a different way.
The last thing I’ll say is that if you do really get into finance you will find some of the smartest and most competitive people that you’ve ever met. You will have to really go for things. 3.1 GPA, not doing an internship, waiting to apply for jobs until after you graduated, etc. will not cut it. This is your life, just make some decisions and really commit and good things will come for you, whether that is finance or not.
But what do I know I’m just some douchebag giving life advice on the internet.
 
^ I hope you have more confidence during job interviews than you display in that last sentence.
 
lockheed10023 wrote:
You are 23. You just graduated. I would love to start over at that age.
Ditto. How can a person be so paranoid at 23? I didn’t finish my bachelor’s until I was 28. Finished a master’s at 30.
While my goal was always to work in private wealth management, I went a little different route. As soon as I was eligible, I sat for the CPA exams. I have been studying for CFA while working as a CPA. Not easy, but the easy road gets you nowhere.
Remember this about CFA–it’s not a magic ticket to a six-figure job. If your boss (or potential boss) is not a CFA Charterholder or candidate, then he probably won’t value the charter. (I know–there is one other CFA within two hundred miles of me. Most people don’t even know what it means.)
Remember what Qui-Gon said. “Training to be a [CFA] is not an easy challenge. And even if you succeed, it’s a hard life.”
 
ddrobinett wrote:
lockheed10023 wrote:
You are 23. You just graduated. I would love to start over at that age.
Remember this about CFA–it’s not a magic ticket to a six-figure job. If your boss (or potential boss) is not a CFA Charterholder or candidate, then he probably won’t value the charter. (I know–there is one other CFA within two hundred miles of me. Most people don’t even know what it means.)
This couldn’t be said enough.
 
There is a lot of positive feeback here and if I could add anything to the mix, it’d be that I encourage you to give some serious consideration to the financial advsior role. I accepted a financial advisor role at a large insurer right out of college (2010) and leveraged it into a much better opportunity with the Trade Desk at a Top 50 bank. My resume was pretty solid for a recent graduate (4.0 GPA, research internship, etc), but the job market was thin and competitive. You’d be surprised what some securities licenses and one year of professional experience can do for your employment prospects. By no means do I think I’ve “made it” in this industry, but I do have a steady job with a clear path to advancement. I’ve quickly learned that employers place a premium on experience and you might just have to peddle life insurance and annuities for a year to get your foot in the door. That’s OK - a lot of people have gone this route. Best of luck to you in your professional endeavors.
 
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