Scored Above 70% in all CFA programme on CV, Violation (Yes or Not)

Harrogath wrote:
Tickersu you replied: “It means you score at least 70% correct in every subject - nothing more, nothing less”
That would be correct to say. Have you ever said “I at least scored 70% on every subject”? Although it is true, because the Institute told me I scored >70% in every subject on Level I, I don’t really go around telling people unless they ask…
I guess not, you surely have said I got 70+ on each subject which is wrong, and misleading. Sorry, my mistake. I just checked the scoring bands from the Institute (it is >70%). I will change my statement to this: “It means you scored greater than 70% in every subject.” The score band is >70%, which means it is indeed factual to say you scored greater than 70% in the relevant subjects– it is, in no way, wrong to make this statement.
If CFAI tells you that info is just for your personal insights and for future study strategies. You can share it, but please do not give such importance to that, is stupid lol. I’m not giving importance to it. You seem to be moving from your initial statement because you can’t defend it. You stated that it was a violation of the CFAI code and standards to say you scored >70% in all subjects (even if it is true). Your claim is incorrect, let’s keep on the point.
You just passed the exam and a 50-70 score candidate could have better final score than you, it is totally possible. I completely agree, asssuming they scored in the >70% band at least once. If they never scored >70% in any topic, then it is impossible for them to have scored at least as high as someone who scored >70% in every topic.
And please do not write between lines, that is not the correct way to make a reply. According to whom?
Formulate and idea, write a paragraph and I will do the same. This forum does not allow to copy and paste your writtings, ok? I like responding in this way. I certainly wouldn’t tell you how format your response. I’m not sure what you mean by copying and pasting writings is not allowed…
Thanks. You’re quite welcome.
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SHoot85 wrote:
Harrogath wrote:
Tickersu you replied: “It means you score at least 70% correct in every subject - nothing more, nothing less”
That would be correct to say. Have you ever said “I at least scored 70% on every subject”? I guess not, you surely have said I got 70+ on each subject which is wrong, and misleading. If CFAI tells you that info is just for your personal insights and for future study strategies. You can share it, but please do not give such importance to that, is stupid lol. You just passed the exam and a 50-70 score candidate could have better final score than you, it is totally possible.
And please do not write between lines, that is not the correct way to make a reply. Formulate and idea, write a paragraph and I will do the same. This forum does not allow to copy and paste your writtings, ok? Thanks.
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dude, you need to learn how to separate OPINION vs. FACT.
FACT: Nowhere does CFAI state that writing on your resume/CV that you passed Level 2 with all subject areas of 70% or more is in violation of the Code.
FACT: CFAI gives a million examples of what DOES violate the code, and this is not one of them.
OPINION: you don’t think it’s a good idea to do so.
OPINION: you don’t think someone who passed with 70 or more says anything about the candidate’s performance on the exam relative to others.
OPINION: you don’t think anyone should/would want to give this info in public.
please recognize the difference; it’s not hard to grasp. these are not violations, but not all people are the same as you or have the same values, and are free to do as they wish if they are not in violation.
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This is what I have noticed as well. The conversation drifts from a strong conviction that it is a violation of the CFA Institute’s code and standards towards it being a violation of his code and standards. His opinion seems to trump what is actually written in reference books…Don’t get me wrong, it’s perfectly fine to have your own opinions and beliefs, but it doesn’t change reality.
 
tickersu wrote:
Harrogath wrote:
Tickersu you replied: “It means you score at least 70% correct in every subject - nothing more, nothing less”
That would be correct to say. Have you ever said “I at least scored 70% on every subject”? Although it is true, because the Institute told me I scored >70% in every subject on Level I, I don’t really go around telling people unless they ask… CFAI TOLD YOU ARE IN THAT BAND ONLY, SO YOU MISLEADING INFO UNSLESS YOU SAY AT LEAST 71% THEN LOL
I guess not, you surely have said I got 70+ on each subject which is wrong, and misleading. Sorry, my mistake. I just checked the scoring bands from the Institute (it is >70%). I will change my statement to this: “It means you scored greater than 70% in every subject.” The score band is >70%, which means it is indeed factual to say you scored greater than 70% in the relevant subjects– it is, in no way, wrong to make this statement. AT LEAST 71% THEN.
If CFAI tells you that info is just for your personal insights and for future study strategies. You can share it, but please do not give such importance to that, is stupid lol. I’m not giving importance to it. You seem to be moving from your initial statement because you can’t defend it. You stated that it was a violation of the CFAI code and standards to say you scored >70% in all subjects (even if it is true). Your claim is incorrect, let’s keep on the point. WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT PUT IT ON YOUR CV… AND SINCE THERE IS NO CLEAR STATEMENT ABOUT THIS IN THE CODE I DESPISE FROM MY INITIAL COMMENT, BUT I STILL HOLD THAT IT IS UNPROFESSIONAL TO STAY DISCLOSING SUCH A THINGS IN YOUR CVS. AN OTHER TOTALLY DIFFERENT CASE IS “CUM LAUDE” WHICH MEANS 100% CORRECT IN SOMETHING, THERE IS CORRECT TO SAY CUM LAUDE BECAUSE IT IS FACT AND SURE, BUT TELLING I SCORED 70+ IS STUPID. THINK ABOUT IT.
You just passed the exam and a 50-70 score candidate could have better final score than you, it is totally possible. I completely agree, asssuming they scored in the >70% band at least once. If they never scored >70% in any topic, then it is impossible for them to have scored at least as high as someone who scored >70% in every topic. YES, I MEANT MIXED SCORES, OTHERWISE WOULD BE MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
And please do not write between lines, that is not the correct way to make a reply. According to whom? ACCORDING ME, AND MANY OTHER MILLION OF PEOPLE, PLEASE BE FRIENDLY.
Formulate and idea, write a paragraph and I will do the same. This forum does not allow to copy and paste your writtings, ok? I like responding in this way. I certainly wouldn’t tell you how format your response. I’m not sure what you mean by copying and pasting writings is not allowed… WELL, IF YOU LOOK AROUND YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO LIKE TO WRITE BETWEEN LINES, IT HAS NO ORDER, LOOKS UNCLEAN AND IS A BIT UNRESPECTFUL TO REPLY EVERY 5 WORDS AN OTHER MEMBER WRITES, I DONT WRITE WORDS I WRITE A WHOLE IDEA AND I EXPECT A WHOLE IDEA IN RETURN. LIKE A DEBATE, IDEA VS IDEA , NOT SCREAMS EVERYWHERE.
Thanks. You’re quite welcome. I WILL WHEN YOU READ MY CAPITAL LETTERS :)
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tickersu wrote:
Harrogath wrote:
onlysimon wrote:
“Harrogath - CFA Passed Level I” <– violation right there..
http://www.cfainstitute.org/community/social/Pages/profile.aspx
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Forum mistake, not mine, it is a standard tittle lol
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It is still your mistake and a violation of the code and standards… You have chosen to add the title to your anonymous account.
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Ok, so we were all in violation some time. If you already erased it, well, what can I do, I will erase it asap tho.
 
tickersu wrote:
I was typing my last post and after I posted, I saw that you and I both ended with a “bottom line” statement… Harrogath must be using subliminal mind tricks to put us into a similar thought pattern haha
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Haha, must be!
 
anyhow.. my opinion on the 70% thing is a violation. In the results email it states “The three columns on the right are marked with asterisks to indicate your performance on each topic area.”.
performance != score
i.e. they may not score some of your answers.
they will test the significance of each question and any question which doesn’t have significance ( choosing the correct answer is not correlated to high scoring candidates) will be dropped, so some questions are not part of scoring.
so it’s ok to say “my performance in every topic area was >70%” but you cannot use any synonym for performance such as score,mark, result etc.
 
Harrogath wrote:
tickersu wrote:
Harrogath wrote:
Tickersu you replied: “It means you score at least 70% correct in every subject - nothing more, nothing less”
That would be correct to say. Have you ever said “I at least scored 70% on every subject”? Although it is true, because the Institute told me I scored >70% in every subject on Level I, I don’t really go around telling people unless they ask… CFAI TOLD YOU ARE IN THAT BAND ONLY, SO YOU MISLEADING INFO UNSLESS YOU SAY AT LEAST 71% THEN LOL
I guess not, you surely have said I got 70+ on each subject which is wrong, and misleading. Sorry, my mistake. I just checked the scoring bands from the Institute (it is >70%). I will change my statement to this: “It means you scored greater than 70% in every subject.” The score band is >70%, which means it is indeed factual to say you scored greater than 70% in the relevant subjects– it is, in no way, wrong to make this statement. AT LEAST 71% THEN.
If CFAI tells you that info is just for your personal insights and for future study strategies. You can share it, but please do not give such importance to that, is stupid lol. I’m not giving importance to it. You seem to be moving from your initial statement because you can’t defend it. You stated that it was a violation of the CFAI code and standards to say you scored >70% in all subjects (even if it is true). Your claim is incorrect, let’s keep on the point. WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT PUT IT ON YOUR CV… AND SINCE THERE IS NO CLEAR STATEMENT ABOUT THIS IN THE CODE I DESPISE FROM MY INITIAL COMMENT, BUT I STILL HOLD THAT IT IS UNPROFESSIONAL TO STAY DISCLOSING SUCH A THINGS IN YOUR CVS. AN OTHER TOTALLY DIFFERENT CASE IS “CUM LAUDE” WHICH MEANS 100% CORRECT IN SOMETHING, THERE IS CORRECT TO SAY CUM LAUDE BECAUSE IT IS FACT AND SURE, BUT TELLING I SCORED 70+ IS STUPID. THINK ABOUT IT.
You just passed the exam and a 50-70 score candidate could have better final score than you, it is totally possible. I completely agree, asssuming they scored in the >70% band at least once. If they never scored >70% in any topic, then it is impossible for them to have scored at least as high as someone who scored >70% in every topic. YES, I MEANT MIXED SCORES, OTHERWISE WOULD BE MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
And please do not write between lines, that is not the correct way to make a reply. According to whom? ACCORDING ME, AND MANY OTHER MILLION OF PEOPLE, PLEASE BE FRIENDLY.
Formulate and idea, write a paragraph and I will do the same. This forum does not allow to copy and paste your writtings, ok? I like responding in this way. I certainly wouldn’t tell you how format your response. I’m not sure what you mean by copying and pasting writings is not allowed… WELL, IF YOU LOOK AROUND YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO LIKE TO WRITE BETWEEN LINES, IT HAS NO ORDER, LOOKS UNCLEAN AND IS A BIT UNRESPECTFUL TO REPLY EVERY 5 WORDS AN OTHER MEMBER WRITES, I DONT WRITE WORDS I WRITE A WHOLE IDEA AND I EXPECT A WHOLE IDEA IN RETURN. LIKE A DEBATE, IDEA VS IDEA , NOT SCREAMS EVERYWHERE.
Thanks. You’re quite welcome. I WILL WHEN YOU READ MY CAPITAL LETTERS :)
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This makes me smile.
 
Harrogath wrote:
tickersu wrote:
Harrogath wrote:
Tickersu you replied: “It means you score at least 70% correct in every subject - nothing more, nothing less”
That would be correct to say. Have you ever said “I at least scored 70% on every subject”? Although it is true, because the Institute told me I scored >70% in every subject on Level I, I don’t really go around telling people unless they ask… CFAI TOLD YOU ARE IN THAT BAND ONLY, SO YOU MISLEADING INFO UNSLESS YOU SAY AT LEAST 71% THEN LOL
I guess not, you surely have said I got 70+ on each subject which is wrong, and misleading. Sorry, my mistake. I just checked the scoring bands from the Institute (it is >70%). I will change my statement to this: “It means you scored greater than 70% in every subject.” The score band is >70%, which means it is indeed factual to say you scored greater than 70% in the relevant subjects– it is, in no way, wrong to make this statement. AT LEAST 71% THEN.
If CFAI tells you that info is just for your personal insights and for future study strategies. You can share it, but please do not give such importance to that, is stupid lol. I’m not giving importance to it. You seem to be moving from your initial statement because you can’t defend it. You stated that it was a violation of the CFAI code and standards to say you scored >70% in all subjects (even if it is true). Your claim is incorrect, let’s keep on the point. WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT PUT IT ON YOUR CV… AND SINCE THERE IS NO CLEAR STATEMENT ABOUT THIS IN THE CODE I DESPISE FROM MY INITIAL COMMENT, BUT I STILL HOLD THAT IT IS UNPROFESSIONAL TO STAY DISCLOSING SUCH A THINGS IN YOUR CVS. AN OTHER TOTALLY DIFFERENT CASE IS “CUM LAUDE” WHICH MEANS 100% CORRECT IN SOMETHING, THERE IS CORRECT TO SAY CUM LAUDE BECAUSE IT IS FACT AND SURE, BUT TELLING I SCORED 70+ IS STUPID. THINK ABOUT IT.
You just passed the exam and a 50-70 score candidate could have better final score than you, it is totally possible. I completely agree, asssuming they scored in the >70% band at least once. If they never scored >70% in any topic, then it is impossible for them to have scored at least as high as someone who scored >70% in every topic. YES, I MEANT MIXED SCORES, OTHERWISE WOULD BE MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
And please do not write between lines, that is not the correct way to make a reply. According to whom? ACCORDING ME, AND MANY OTHER MILLION OF PEOPLE, PLEASE BE FRIENDLY.
Formulate and idea, write a paragraph and I will do the same. This forum does not allow to copy and paste your writtings, ok? I like responding in this way. I certainly wouldn’t tell you how format your response. I’m not sure what you mean by copying and pasting writings is not allowed… WELL, IF YOU LOOK AROUND YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO LIKE TO WRITE BETWEEN LINES, IT HAS NO ORDER, LOOKS UNCLEAN AND IS A BIT UNRESPECTFUL TO REPLY EVERY 5 WORDS AN OTHER MEMBER WRITES, I DONT WRITE WORDS I WRITE A WHOLE IDEA AND I EXPECT A WHOLE IDEA IN RETURN. LIKE A DEBATE, IDEA VS IDEA , NOT SCREAMS EVERYWHERE.
Thanks. You’re quite welcome. I WILL WHEN YOU READ MY CAPITAL LETTERS :)
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I’ve never had anyone reply back into one of my outlined replies, which it seems you did you create a difficulty. I’ve never had anyone complain before, either. The CFAI score band is “>70%” which is equivalent to “at least 71%” if we assume that only whole percentages are used, i.e. 70.1% is not allowed, thus making 71% the first possible outcome. So, are you arguing that it is misleading to repeat the information exactly as the CFA Institute presented it? That is the point you seem to be making, but I could be wrong. Also, >70% encompasses >=71%, does it not? However, the CFAI scoring bands don’t allow you to explicitly determine if you scored at least 71% (unless I missed something). Overall, this doesn’t seem like an important point, because you should stick with what the Institute has conveyed to you if you truly want to be cautious (>70%, not >=71%).
Cum Laude is Latin for “with praise/glory/honor” (depending on your translation), it does not designate 100%. Typically, it is the lowest band of honors conferred at a university (at least in the US, usually around a 3.5 GPA out of 4.0, if I recall). The next (and higher) honors designations are magna cum laude and summa cum laude, meaning “with great praise” and “with highest praise”, respectively.
I’m not disagreeing with it possibly being silly to disclose. You seem to have latched on to this point, but I’m not disagreeing with it. I’m merely saying it’s within the guidelines provided by the CFA Institute.
Frankly, if you can’t see any order to the replies, that isn’t my issue. I write between the lines after someone has made a comment I would like to address completely, without any miscommunication as to what I’m referencing. I have noticed many people don’t use my method of replying. Does that mean I should conform because I’m being different? Think of what you’re saying, because my replies haven’t seemed to cause anyone such distress except for you in this very specific context. If more people asked me to reply differently, I would gladly take it into consideration. (I’m really not an inflexible person. As you can tell I changed my reply to your last post.) In order to convey your thoughts, you have been using words, so I’m not sure what you mean that you “don’t use words”… Clearly, you have understood my thoughts, because you have read and replied to them on numerous occasions. Lastly, I’m not sure what you mean by “screams everywhere.” No one is screaming, but based on internet conventions, some might say you are “screaming” by using capital letters. I don’t know, so I wouldn’t make that conclusion (I would rather go with emphasis from your capital letters).
As fun as this has been (it was), I’m going to let this be at least for a little while (in terms of you and I discussing this). I can’t expect myself or anyone else here to change your opinion on this, because you like presenting your opinion with the same conviction as facts. It’s your way of thinking, and that’s totally fine. As I said earlier though, your beliefs don’t alter reality.
 
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