US News 2010 Ranks out

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1 Harvard University Boston, MA
1 Stanford University Stanford, CA
3 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Sloan) Cambridge, MA
4 Northwestern University (Kellogg) Evanston, IL
5 University of Chicago (Booth) Chicago, IL
5 University of Pennsylvania (Wharton) Philadelphia, PA
7 Dartmouth College (Tuck) Hanover, NH
7 University of California–Berkeley (Haas) Berkeley, CA
9 Columbia University New York, NY
9 New York University (Stern) New York, NY
11 Yale University New Haven, CT
12 University of Michigan–Ann Arbor (Ross) Ann Arbor, MI
13 University of Virginia (Darden) Charlottesville, VA
14 Duke University (Fuqua) Durham, NC
15 University of California–Los Angeles (Anderson) Los Angeles, CA
16 Carnegie Mellon University (Tepper) Pittsburgh, PA
16 University of Texas–Austin (McCombs) Austin, TX
18 Cornell University (Johnson) Ithaca, NY
19 Washington University in St. Louis (Olin) St. Louis, MO
20 University of Southern California (Marshall) Los Angeles, CA
21 Ohio State University (Fisher) Columbus, OH
21 University of North Carolina–Chapel Hill (Kenan-Flagler) Chapel Hill, NC
23 Indiana University–Bloomington (Kelley) Bloomington, IN
24 Georgetown University (McDonough) Washington, DC
24 University of Minnesota–Twin Cities (Carlson) Minneapolis, MN
http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/...
 
wow, Wharton got edged out by 2 schools.
I thot the top 3 were always H/S/W.
On the other hand, is there any value to these rankings? What about the ones with BW, FT, or the economist?
 
I haven’t seen the print or expanded version of these rankings, but have heard that employment rate for graduation was an important factor. So, while I haven’t seen the hard data yet, I’m wondering if Wharton being ranked at #5 has something to do with their students holding out for job offers in finance when there weren’t that many jobs to be had…
 
numi Wrote:
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> I’m wondering if Wharton being ranked at #5 has
> something to do with their students holding out
> for job offers in finance when there weren’t that
> many jobs to be had…
that’s most likely correct - they’re a huge finance/ib school and that industry wasn’t hiring over the past two years. the banks had been just letting analyst classes go and not even making campus visits.
 
Actually from what I recall from my visit to Wharton this past winter, all the big banks continued to visit campus (as they did for the other top 5-7 schools)…there weren’t any big banks that skipped out on hiring associate classes. However, it was the hiring for PE/HF that got a lot more competitive and people thinking that they could just go from arbitrary field to PE/HF without having prior finance experience, despite a top MBA, that ended up having to wait things out.
 
A friend of mine sent me the score ratings too, which are as follows:
School Score
1. Harvard 100
1. Stanford 100
3. MIT 94
4. Northwestern 93
5. Chicago 92
5. Penn 92
7. Dartmouth 89
7. Berkeley 89
9. Columbia 86
9. NYU 86
11. Yale 85
12. Michigan 82
13. Virginia 81
14. Duke 80
15. UCLA 78
16. Carnegie Mellon 76
16. University of Texas 76
18. Cornell 75
19. WashU in St. Louis 72
20. USC 70
I basically think about the U.S. rankings in terms of groupings, so it might go something like this:
Stanford, Harvard
MIT, Kellogg, Wharton, Chicago
Dartmouth, Berkeley
Columbia, NYU, Yale
…etc.
Obviously rankings are subjective but I was wondering how other people here thought about them. Specifically, I was curious to see that Columbia tied with NYU, and Haas was ranked higher than both. Also, Yale appears to be moving up.
 
This is an overall B School ranking right? (not just finance programs)
 
Correct – NYU is 3rd on their finance specialty rankings, ahead of H/S/CBS and a lot of other finance powerhouses.
 
numi Wrote:
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> Obviously rankings are subjective but I was
> wondering how other people here thought about
> them. Specifically, I was curious to see that
> Columbia tied with NYU, and Haas was ranked higher
> than both. Also, Yale appears to be moving up.
Berkeley has been holding steady above NYU/Columbia for the past few years.
http://blog.clearadmit.com/2008/03/us-news-releases-annual-b-schools-ran...
*edit* Here’s 2010 rankings (new one is 2011)
http://www.mbapursuit.com/us-news-business-school-rank-2010
 
That’s nice to hear because their value investor program is really appealing for me.
former trader Wrote:
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> Columbia would be a lot higher if it was a ranking
> for the asset management industry.
 
all the top 20 schools will absolutely help you get a good job…and its just for that first job then the candidate shines and thats how the true “rankings” are determined IMO.
just because you went to a great school doesnt mean you’ll be a great manager.
 
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