Why do people on this site belittle the CFA program??

vicky_cool400 wrote:
I dont have patience in writing posts here . I am not giving an english test nor you are a oxford graduate
Post of the year. You even managed to throw in “Giving and english test.”
 
Spranga5 wrote:
I’ve been on this site for a few months now and have noticed there are people here that try to belittle the designation or even try to discourage others from pursuing the charter. If it’s not that big a deal then why practically kill yourself trying to pass? Why waste so much time and effort to get the charter?? I believe there are lots of people with “sour grapes” syndrome on this site.
When I first started the CFA program, I had just passed the CPA exam. Sure, it was difficult, but it was doable. And it gave me a real, tangible, immediate benefit. I immediately realized a 50% jump in pay, simply because I passed the CPA exam.
Since I had a real interest in investments (and not really accounting), I thought, very logically, “Well, I can just take the CFA exam. It can’t be that much harder than the CPA exam, and will probably give me another 50% bump in pay. After all, all the ‘good’ portfolio managers around town make that much, or more.”
This is a perfectly logical, very sensible statement. Unfortunately, it’s just not true. CFA is like CPA x 3, and so far has earned me zero. And my job prospects haven’t increased as a result of passing Level 3, either. By the time I realized this, I was already halfway through Level 2. Might as well finish what you started, right? (Which again follows logic, but is unfortunately a foolish decision, because the first 1.5 levels were already a sunk cost.)
Spranga5 wrote:
Also, it’s amazing to me that so many people on here believe that CFAI has little or no ethical standards and are up to nefarious activities. Why would an organization that stresses so much on ethics be part of all the conspiracies people keep mentioning? People have all kinds of stupid paranoid ideas…..from artificially keeping the pass rate low to not actually retabulating your score. If you truly believe that CFAI is so corrupt then why try so hard to be a part of the program?
I don’t think that CFA is deliberately failing/passing some, but I do wish they were more transparent about the candidate’s grades and the MPS. After all, they are the loudest voice for transparency within the industry. Sounds like a case of “do as I say, not as I do.”
Grading/MPS is kinda like Obama’s birth certificate. I don’t know if there’s any foul play going on, but if you have nothing to hide, why do you take such pains to hide it? Just put it out there for everybody to see and be done with it.
 
andytrader wrote:
I get countless resumes from people with charter who have no business in finance and they get immediately put into the pass pile.
Out of my own curiosity, what exactly do you see on said resumes that makes you throw them in the pass pile?
 
8EEZBaby wrote:
andytrader wrote:
I get countless resumes from people with charter who have no business in finance and they get immediately put into the pass pile.
Out of my own curiosity, what exactly do you see on said resumes that makes you throw them in the pass pile?
It’s 2 things. If we are looking for someone with 3-5 years finance experience, we get a number of resumes of people with no finance background whatsoever (with and without charter). Specifically it is people from back office or IT positions, financial writers, etc.
When we are looking for recent grads (no prior experience), we’ll get even mor resumes of people in late 20s / early 30s looking to change careers. There is a reason why we want someone who is very young. First, salary reasons. Second, we want someone who we can beat up, who can stay late, etc.
It is very very difficult to make a career switch into buy side / sell sie past a certain age and the charter will do absolutely nothing to change that. The only exception is if you are in a really small market and you are willing to get into private wealth management.
So these are reasons why there have been so many threads about being sure why you want to spend the time and energy taking the exams.
 
andytrader wrote:
8EEZBaby wrote:
andytrader wrote:
I get countless resumes from people with charter who have no business in finance and they get immediately put into the pass pile.
Out of my own curiosity, what exactly do you see on said resumes that makes you throw them in the pass pile?
It’s 2 things. If we are looking for someone with 3-5 years finance experience, we get a number of resumes of people with no finance background whatsoever (with and without charter). Specifically it is people from back office or IT positions, financial writers, etc.
When we are looking for recent grads (no prior experience), we’ll get even mor resumes of people in late 20s / early 30s looking to change careers. There is a reason why we want someone who is very young. First, salary reasons. Second, we want someone who we can beat up, who can stay late, etc.
It is very very difficult to make a career switch into buy side / sell sie past a certain age and the charter will do absolutely nothing to change that. The only exception is if you are in a really small market and you are willing to get into private wealth management.
So these are reasons why there have been so many threads about being sure why you want to spend the time and energy taking the exams.
good points here
 
andytrader wrote:
When we are looking for recent grads (no prior experience), we’ll get even mor resumes of people in late 20s / early 30s looking to change careers. There is a reason why we want someone who is very young. First, salary reasons. Second, we want someone who we can beat up, who can stay late, etc.
It is very very difficult to make a career switch into buy side / sell sie past a certain age and the charter will do absolutely nothing to change that.
See my post about why Big-4 audit was not interested in me at the tender age of 30.
 
I think if you view the CFA program as an educational exercise and then learn to apply that knowledge in a meaningful way, I don’t see how you can be disappointed. If you think getting the CFA charter will equate to someone paying you more money for what is in your head, you are likely to be disappointed.
 
andytrader wrote:
8EEZBaby wrote:
andytrader wrote:
I get countless resumes from people with charter who have no business in finance and they get immediately put into the pass pile.
Out of my own curiosity, what exactly do you see on said resumes that makes you throw them in the pass pile?
It’s 2 things. If we are looking for someone with 3-5 years finance experience, we get a number of resumes of people with no finance background whatsoever (with and without charter). Specifically it is people from back office or IT positions, financial writers, etc.
When we are looking for recent grads (no prior experience), we’ll get even mor resumes of people in late 20s / early 30s looking to change careers. There is a reason why we want someone who is very young. First, salary reasons. Second, we want someone who we can beat up, who can stay late, etc.
It is very very difficult to make a career switch into buy side / sell sie past a certain age and the charter will do absolutely nothing to change that. The only exception is if you are in a really small market and you are willing to get into private wealth management.
So these are reasons why there have been so many threads about being sure why you want to spend the time and energy taking the exams.
Just curious but you say you get applicants with no finance background and have the charter. How is this possible since you have to have 4 years investment related work experience? Is CFAI pretty lax on this topic or did you simply mean applicants that have passed level III?
 
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