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imp,

not to put him down but it is tough looking for jobs in other cities as most firms have the view that they can find a qualified candidate locally. Ive tried to look to get back to NYC as Im in a regional office and im in a front office banking role at a leading firm and it has been pretty tough.
 
I did not mean to put him down. If he doesn't try, he isn't going to get the roles. Would you limit your job search to Ohio if you were an aspiring fashion designer or model?
 
My life's motto: Perseverance commands success.

I do not believe imp was putting him down, but rather reminding him that there are way to many options for him to give up just yet.
 
let me clarify. I was saying I didnt want to put him down since from my point of view it is tough to get to NYC even with relevant experience. everything imp said was very encouraging to him and I do agree that he needs to look to other cities if he wants this to work.
 
As mentioned before, I have been applying for positions outside of Ohio. And as mentioned before, the reason for the question is because my efforts have yielded exactly...nothing.

I can tell you firsthand that the entire state of Ohio is an employment wasteland, unless you want a career in commission-only sales or the burger-flipping trade.
 
c_hayhurst Wrote:
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> As mentioned before, I have been applying for
> positions outside of Ohio. And as mentioned
> before, the reason for the question is because my
> efforts have yielded exactly...nothing.

This is a horrible attitude to have when looking for a job, especially in such a competitive business. Understandably, you're frustrated, but you're forgetting that it only takes a single success to make the whole process worth it. If you interview for 100 positions, you'll be that much more prepared for the 101st., and if you're conducting a proper search, you should be learning more about the industry (and yourself) after each application or interview and making contacts that might very well help you to land a job down the road. I'd hardly call this nothing, but if that's what you consider time spent searching for a job, then that's what it's sure to be.
 
c_hayhurst,

have you been cold calling and trying to network. sending in blind applications is never going to get you anywhere. The information the guys are giving you is good and will certainly help your search. To start you arent really going to find any good finance jobs in Ohio.If I was you Id be cold calling any contact in Chicago that I could find. Dont just call these guys asking for jobs but call and ask them about their career and how they got into the business. Many times they are willing to chat and can say we dont have anything here but I know xyz may be looking for some people. This is the route I used to get into a very good bank, it was painful and had its highs and lows but in the end it was all worth the effort. Also, Chicago has a good amount of commodity exchanges so if you are interested in that route Im sure their are opportunities. typically the barriers to entry at these firms arent as high as an investment bank. good luck
 
Gary Seinfield Wrote:
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>
> This is a horrible attitude to have when looking
> for a job, especially in such a competitive
> business. Understandably, you're frustrated, but
> you're forgetting that it only takes a single
> success to make the whole process worth it. If
> you interview for 100 positions, you'll be that
> much more prepared for the 101st., and if you're
> conducting a proper search, you should be learning
> more about the industry (and yourself) after each
> application or interview and making contacts that
> might very well help you to land a job down the
> road. I'd hardly call this nothing, but if that's
> what you consider time spent searching for a job,
> then that's what it's sure to be.

Gary,

Thank you very much for your insights. I suggest you re-read my inital posts on this subject and re-examine your assumptions about the job search process. The desired outcome of the job search process is to obtain a job. Since no meaningful employment opportunities have manifested, then, yes, the yield has been zero.

You are correct that on this journey, a job seeker should take advantage of opportunities as they present themselves: sharpen your interviewing skills, get feedback from interviewers as to your interviewing style and your resume/cover letter format, network with others, etc. Additionally, I agree with you that just because one cannot get a job offer every time they submit a resume or attend an interview is no reason to quit looking for a position in their chosen career.

Well, I have to go now and get to the only job I have been able to get: loading boxes onto a truck for an independant insurance agent. Well, it isn't a job really as much as it is a one-day work assignment I got through a temp agency.

Since this assignment is related to the insurance/finance industry (however speciously), should I count such a situation as a success in my job hunt?
 
jax26 Wrote:
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> c_hayhurst,
>
> have you been cold calling and trying to network.
> sending in blind applications is never going to
> get you anywhere. The information the guys are
> giving you is good and will certainly help your
> search. To start you arent really going to find
> any good finance jobs in Ohio.If I was you Id be
> cold calling any contact in Chicago that I could
> find. Dont just call these guys asking for jobs
> but call and ask them about their career and how
> they got into the business. Many times they are
> willing to chat and can say we dont have anything
> here but I know xyz may be looking for some
> people. This is the route I used to get into a
> very good bank, it was painful and had its highs
> and lows but in the end it was all worth the
> effort. Also, Chicago has a good amount of
> commodity exchanges so if you are interested in
> that route Im sure their are opportunities.
> typically the barriers to entry at these firms
> arent as high as an investment bank. good luck

Jax,

Great idea. Thanks! I'll use that method on Monday. This weekend I'll develop a list of names I can cold call on Monday. I assume when you mean "cold calling", you are referring to the technique of contacting people who don't know me and solicit them for advice, yes?

I'm excited to try this out. Thanks again for the help.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at Friday, June 16, 2006 at 10:26AM by c_hayhurst.
 
Yes thats exactly what I mean. You need to find contacts and expand your network. Look at local CFA society site, im sure Chicago has one. Obviously phone is the best method but if the CFA site only lists emails than draft a short email and send it to some people. The worst they can tell you is they cant help. You should also be hitting your alumni database hard.
 
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